Who Was the Cross For?

The punishment Jesus endured on the cross wasn’t required by God.

JOHN ELDREDGE / RESILIENT: RESTORING YOUR WEARY SOUL

The human soul has a built-in yearning for joy and beauty and all good things. But that craving for life has taken a real beating in recent years. Between false promises of ease and comfort on one side and the sheer trauma of global disease and disasters on the other, people today are facing a shortage of peace, happiness, and strength. 

In this conversation, John and Jason dive into John’s new book, Resilient. The guys talk about life and faith during and since the pandemic. They dive into the evidence of trauma, how to discover peace in the midst of disappointment, the dark night of the soul, de- and reconstruction, and ultimately union. This conversation reveals a path toward genuine recovery and resilience provided by Jesus himself.

Interstellar Love

Brand, quietly at first, but then with greater conviction says, “Maybe it means something more, something we can’t yet understand. Maybe it’s some evidence some artifact of a higher dimension that we can’t consciously perceive… Love is the one thing we’re capable of perceiving that transcends dimensions of time and space. Maybe we should trust that even if we can’t understand it yet…”

JARED NEUSCH & CONNOR SHRAM / JESUS VS. THE BAD GUYS

Jared Neusch, Conner Shram, and Jason discuss the importance of bringing the Jesus way to the center of children’s understanding and experience of God. The conversation focuses on Jared and Connor’s new children’s book, Jesus vs. The Bad Guys, which aims to introduce children to the true nature of God and the concept of forgiveness. This wonderfully illustrated book invites kids to explore the goodness of God through imagination.

Panic In The Backseat

When Karen was five, she had her first and only panic attack. It was on a Sunday, after church. She had a tummy ache and, with it, a sudden terror. What if she died? She began to hyperventilate. So, dad and mom put her in the car, where she sat in the back seat between her grandmothers. And they raced to the hospital.

In that moment of paralyzing fear, when five-year-old Karen thought she was dying, she told her grandmothers she wanted to ask Jesus into her heart.

And she did.

Equality With God?

..I believe Jesus is God’s thoughts regarding equality; that the definition of equality is discovered in a triune God stepping into flesh and blood. And I think Jesus, fully God and fully man, displayed this equality through His union, oneness, and intimacy with Father and Holy Spirit.

BOB SWITZER / THE EPIC NARRATIVE

In this conversation, Bob Switzer shares his journey. Women in ministry, shifting from exegetical to narrative preaching, challenging traditional church structures, and pursuing authenticity, in this conversation Bob discusses the importance of Jesus as perfect theology and the need to reexamine problematic scriptures.

Bob also reflects on the loneliness experienced as a pastor and the lack of long-term friendships. He highlights the significance of exploring new theological perspectives and embracing the goodness of God. In this conversation, Bob Switzer and Jason discuss the misconceptions of podcasting and the unique format of Bob’s podcast, The Epic Narrative.

BILL VANDERBUSH / UNVEILED HORIZON

In this conversation, Bill Vanderbush and Jason discuss the shift from a desperate, performance-based Christianity to living in the goodness and simplicity of Christ. They explore the concept of the goodness of God and the danger of limited perception. They also touch on the deconstructed community and the reformational period the body of Christ is going through.

The conversation emphasizes the importance of living in union with Christ and beholding His authentic nature. Overall, the discussion highlights the need to embrace astonishment, wonder, and the simplicity of the gospel. Bill discusses his book ‘Unveiled Horizon’ and the motivation behind writing it for his children and future generations. He shares how the book resonated more with the New Age market than the Christian market, highlighting the disillusionment with Western Christianity and its organizational structures…

Recent Articles

Kingdom Theology

As my friends Dubb Alexander, Ryan Pena, Eunike Jonathan, and Tony Robinson have written, “The Kingdom is a Royal Family who co-reigns upon the Earth… The heart of God in creating humanity is for family. His desire in the act of creation was not to expand His army, but to give love through union and connection with Himself…”

Hidden To Discover

I think Jesus disappeared from their sight for the same reason He came to them as a Stranger, so they could move beyond their ability to understand and into faith; that revelatory burning within their hearts—a confident surrender to a measureless love that reconciles, restores, and transforms!

Behold The Lamb / by Robin Smit

Behold The Lamb is a profoundly beautiful invitation to learn our Father’s language. Jesus was the walking revelation of our original design, “the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world,” started with Adam from the foundations of the world. This book invites us to step away from the lie of separation and discover the original Truth of a LOVE that never leaves or forsakes us and restores all things.

Conversations In Christ / Jason Clark

What if Jesus doesn’t call us servants because servants can’t know what’s in the mind or heart of the master? What if, instead, Jesus calls us friends because in this union, this friendship, we can discover all the Father has revealed? (see John 15:15)

Obedience, Friendship & Mature Faith

What if Jesus doesn’t call us servants because servants can’t know what’s in the mind or heart of the master? What if, instead, Jesus calls us friends because in this union, this friendship, we can discover all the Father has revealed? (see John 15:15)

ETERNAL LIFE WITH JASON CLARK

This podcast features Chapter Three of Jason Clark’s recent book, Leaving and Finding Jesus.

“We have been invited to trade a finite perspective with an infinite eternal life revelation—Christ in us, the hope of glory—and nothing separates us from His love! In John 17, Jesus prayed that we would know this union, this oneness, just as He and the Father were one. Further, He revealed there is no darkness light won’t penetrate, no brokenness that won’t be made whole, no road He won’t join us on, no soil the Seed won’t transform, no consequence of sin that His justice won’t restore—past, present, or future…”

Recalculating

For most of my life, the story of The Rich Young Ruler has been preached by well-intentioned, What am I still lacking, preachers. It’s the message of separation where humanity is outside of God, and the preacher spends most of his message trying to measure the distance between us.

The What am I still lacking message is a self-righteous religious attempt to earn something Jesus already gave. 


And like the Rich Young Ruler, we often walk away grieving as we continue to strive down that frustrating road of lack where God is distant and eternal life is just out of reach; always, well, later…

I Don’t Know…But God Is Good…As Jesus Revealed Him

In the age of certainty, we are invited to live in the faith of, I don’t know…but God is good…as Jesus revealed Him.

Jesus is the way to where we are going; He is the lens by which to discover wisdom, the key by which to unlock understanding.

A Family Story 2023 / To The Jacks Of All Trades

“A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one.”

What? I thought as the whole story illuminated my soul. Deep within me, I sensed my heavenly Father’s laughter—as though He plays the long game. We are rich in love.

I ran inside to find my wife and read the whole story. She grinned like she does when she’s right. It’s stunning…

Three In One

Every thought, every experience, every heartbeat was a display of mutual, self-giving, other-centered love—the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit walking as One. Jesus lived every moment immersed in the lavish surrender of perfect love and the liberty of consent—sure in His Father, confident in the Holy Spirit.

JARED NEUSCH & CONNOR SHRAM / JESUS VS. THE BAD GUYS

JARED NEUSCH & CONNOR SHRAM / JESUS VS. THE BAD GUYS

Jared Neusch, Conner Shram, and Jason discuss the importance of bringing the Jesus way to the center of children’s understanding and experience of God. The conversation focuses on Jared and Connor’s new children’s book, Jesus vs. The Bad Guys, which aims to introduce children to the true nature of God and the concept of forgiveness. This wonderfully illustrated book invites kids to explore the goodness of God through imagination.

BILL VANDERBUSH / UNVEILED HORIZON

BILL VANDERBUSH / UNVEILED HORIZON

In this conversation, Bill Vanderbush and Jason discuss the shift from a desperate, performance-based Christianity to living in the goodness and simplicity of Christ. They explore the concept of the goodness of God and the danger of limited perception. They also touch on the deconstructed community and the reformational period the body of Christ is going through.

The conversation emphasizes the importance of living in union with Christ and beholding His authentic nature. Overall, the discussion highlights the need to embrace astonishment, wonder, and the simplicity of the gospel. Bill discusses his book ‘Unveiled Horizon’ and the motivation behind writing it for his children and future generations. He shares how the book resonated more with the New Age market than the Christian market, highlighting the disillusionment with Western Christianity and its organizational structures…

Hidden To Discover

Hidden To Discover

I think Jesus disappeared from their sight for the same reason He came to them as a Stranger, so they could move beyond their ability to understand and into faith; that revelatory burning within their hearts—a confident surrender to a measureless love that reconciles, restores, and transforms!

Faith

confidence or trust:
IAN SIMKINS / THE TABLE

IAN SIMKINS / THE TABLE

Jason and Brooke connect with Ian Simkins and talk about community, the role of the table in ministry, and our identity being discovered in knowing ourselves as “the one Jesus loves.”

They dive into the challenges of tribalism and division and the need for curiosity and humility in engaging with others. Themes of self-worth, identity, and the concept of being loved are discussed as they explore the impact of workaholism, the need for validation, and the struggle to find value beyond accomplishments.

The conversation addresses the practical implications of being loved, the correlation between self-love and loving others, the importance of operating from a place of rest, the concept of mystery in faith, the beauty of curiosity, and the significance of valuing interruptions.

DON KEATHLEY / A GRACE AWAKENING!

DON KEATHLEY / A GRACE AWAKENING!

This conversation between Jason and Don Keathley dives into Don’s history and the evolution that led to the Grace Awakening Network.

The guys discuss the transformative power of grace, the Fatherhood of God, unconditional love, inclusion, and the practicality of the manifestation of the sons of God. The conversation delves into the importance of trust, the revelation of God’s love, and the significance of becoming the light of the world. They also explore the concept of faith and the measureless revelation of God’s love.

BOB HAMP / THINK DIFFERENTLY LIVE DIFFERENTLY

BOB HAMP / THINK DIFFERENTLY LIVE DIFFERENTLY

This conversation with Bob Hamp and co-host, Brooke Waters, explores the themes of freedom, identity, and transformation, emphasizing the shift from religious performance to relational experience. It delves into the concept of thinking differently, highlighting the process of becoming who we are created to be. The conversation delves into the topics of identity, behavior, freedom, and the nature of God’s love. It explores the idea that behavior follows identity. The concept of the kingdom of God and the discovery of oneness is also discussed, emphasizing the role of consent and freedom in the context of love.

Life

being manifested by growth:
RE-UNION WITH DEREK & JASON

RE-UNION WITH DEREK & JASON

In this conversation, Jason and Derek discuss their reunion and the reasons behind Derek’s hiatus. They talk about their passion for the topics they discuss on their podcast, their personal journeys of growth and transformation, and the importance of love and union with God. They also touch on the impact of their podcast on the community and the need for vulnerability and authenticity in relationships.

The conversation explores themes of love, recovery, church, and the transformative power of faith. In this part of the conversation, Jason and Derek discuss the concept of being born again and experiencing death as a transformative process. They also talk about the significance of repentance and the role of trust in the journey of faith.

They highlight the American contribution to spirituality through the 12-step program of Alcoholics Anonymous and the need to break free from dualistic thinking. The conversation concludes with a discussion on hope, union with God, and the power of love.

JARED NEUSCH & CONNOR SHRAM / JESUS VS. THE BAD GUYS

JARED NEUSCH & CONNOR SHRAM / JESUS VS. THE BAD GUYS

Jared Neusch, Conner Shram, and Jason discuss the importance of bringing the Jesus way to the center of children’s understanding and experience of God. The conversation focuses on Jared and Connor’s new children’s book, Jesus vs. The Bad Guys, which aims to introduce children to the true nature of God and the concept of forgiveness. This wonderfully illustrated book invites kids to explore the goodness of God through imagination.

JASON CLARK / UNTAMED

JASON CLARK / UNTAMED

In this conversation, Jason and Brooke discuss Jason’s book ‘Surrendered and Untamed’ and the journey of writing it. They explore the themes of radical faith, surrender, and living untamed. Jason shares his personal experiences and encounters with God that shaped the book.

This podcast discusses the process of writing, radical obedience, discovering and embracing ‘calling,’ a relational approach to surrender, themes of hope, identity, and union, and rethinking favor. Brooke and Jason explore the concept of separation and how it affects our understanding of God and our experiences in the church. Jason also touches on the themes of dismissal, rejection, and the spirit of prostitution within the church.

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CATHERINE TOON / LOVEOLOGY

CATHERINE TOON / LOVEOLOGY

In this conversation, Jason and Catherine Toon discuss the themes of love, identity, and purpose as they revisit Catherine’s revised and expanded edition of her book, Marked By Love.

They discuss the importance of journaling and encountering God experientially. The conversation addresses the lies and insecurities we often believe about ourselves and the truth of our identity in Christ. The conversation emphasizes the transformative power of God’s love as they explore the idea that we are created in God’s image and likeness, prone to love, and designed to live in the fullness of His pleasure.

They also touch on the importance of trust and faith in navigating life’s challenges and finding rest in God’s presence. The conversation is filled with insights and personal stories that highlight the transformative power of understanding our identity in Christ.

RE-UNION WITH DEREK & JASON

RE-UNION WITH DEREK & JASON

In this conversation, Jason and Derek discuss their reunion and the reasons behind Derek’s hiatus. They talk about their passion for the topics they discuss on their podcast, their personal journeys of growth and transformation, and the importance of love and union with God. They also touch on the impact of their podcast on the community and the need for vulnerability and authenticity in relationships.

The conversation explores themes of love, recovery, church, and the transformative power of faith. In this part of the conversation, Jason and Derek discuss the concept of being born again and experiencing death as a transformative process. They also talk about the significance of repentance and the role of trust in the journey of faith.

They highlight the American contribution to spirituality through the 12-step program of Alcoholics Anonymous and the need to break free from dualistic thinking. The conversation concludes with a discussion on hope, union with God, and the power of love.

IAN SIMKINS / THE TABLE

IAN SIMKINS / THE TABLE

Jason and Brooke connect with Ian Simkins and talk about community, the role of the table in ministry, and our identity being discovered in knowing ourselves as “the one Jesus loves.”

They dive into the challenges of tribalism and division and the need for curiosity and humility in engaging with others. Themes of self-worth, identity, and the concept of being loved are discussed as they explore the impact of workaholism, the need for validation, and the struggle to find value beyond accomplishments.

The conversation addresses the practical implications of being loved, the correlation between self-love and loving others, the importance of operating from a place of rest, the concept of mystery in faith, the beauty of curiosity, and the significance of valuing interruptions.

Art

what is beautiful, appealing, or of more than ordinary significance:
BOB HAMP / THINK DIFFERENTLY LIVE DIFFERENTLY

BOB HAMP / THINK DIFFERENTLY LIVE DIFFERENTLY

This conversation with Bob Hamp and co-host, Brooke Waters, explores the themes of freedom, identity, and transformation, emphasizing the shift from religious performance to relational experience. It delves into the concept of thinking differently, highlighting the process of becoming who we are created to be. The conversation delves into the topics of identity, behavior, freedom, and the nature of God’s love. It explores the idea that behavior follows identity. The concept of the kingdom of God and the discovery of oneness is also discussed, emphasizing the role of consent and freedom in the context of love.

MATT SPINKS / ECSTATIC JOY!

MATT SPINKS / ECSTATIC JOY!

For many, the message of Jesus Christ has not been associated with the overwhelming joy of living. The world is often filled with so much discouragement, depression, and striving just to be happy. In this conversation, Matt talks about his book “High on God,” which presents an authentic solution in a radical approach to Jesus! The guys discuss an ecstatic joy discovered at His Cross that brings a sense of satisfaction and completeness, so we are actually able to live & love confidently.

PAUL GOLF / THE  GOSPEL 101 – INEXPRESSIBLE & GLORIOUS JOY

PAUL GOLF / THE GOSPEL 101 – INEXPRESSIBLE & GLORIOUS JOY

The Trinitarian, mystical, joy-filled, supernatural good news, the mass exodus from the Christian institutional experiment we call ‘church,’ what ‘mission’ looks like for us in the 21st century with a non-toxic gospel, and the supernatural reality of living in union with the Father, Son, and Spirit, in this conversation, Paul and the guys dive into inclusion, evangelism, the creative spirit, the prophetic, the flow of compassion, and the wonder of hope.

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ETERNAL LIFE WITH JASON CLARK

ETERNAL LIFE WITH JASON CLARK

This podcast features Chapter Three of Jason Clark’s recent book, Leaving and Finding Jesus.

“We have been invited to trade a finite perspective with an infinite eternal life revelation—Christ in us, the hope of glory—and nothing separates us from His love! In John 17, Jesus prayed that we would know this union, this oneness, just as He and the Father were one. Further, He revealed there is no darkness light won’t penetrate, no brokenness that won’t be made whole, no road He won’t join us on, no soil the Seed won’t transform, no consequence of sin that His justice won’t restore—past, present, or future…”

THE PROBLEM WITH RETRIBUTION WITH JASON CLARK

THE PROBLEM WITH RETRIBUTION WITH JASON CLARK

This podcast announces and features Jason’s new book, Leaving and Finding Jesus, in audio format. Retribution is the title of chapter seven and is presented in its entirety. In this chapter and podcast, Jason juxtaposes retribution with reconciliation and recognizes that a punishment lens on the nature of God is one of the reasons the church is navigating broken trust. It’s also why we currently find ourselves in a Deconstruction Movement.

God is as Jesus revealed Him, and on a cross Jesus forgave. God in Christ reconciled the world to Himself.

LEAVING & FINDING JESUS

LEAVING & FINDING JESUS

Jason introduces the book he is currently working on, Leaving (& finding) Jesus, which challenges readers to stop building their faith upon the broken foundations of a transactional view of God, and instead, embrace the powerful understanding of reconciliation and self-giving love that truly transforms our lives and our world.

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