Co-Author of A Church Called TOV, Scot McKnight talks about his new book written in response to the abuses of power, sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse within the leadership of Willow Creek, Harvest, and sadly churches of all shapes and sizes.

We talked about TOV (which means goodness) and how when we practice empathy, compassion, extending grace, putting people first, telling the truth, promoting justice, and serving others, TOV emerges in the culture and we all become more Christlike.

QUOTES

They (those who were abused) needed people in the establishment to stand up for them in order to move that story forward at the pace it should have been and they (church leaders) didn’t.”

“The flipside of the power through fear culture is grace.”

“The opposite of a narcissist, who has utterly no insight into his own character and who is totally self-satisfied, is empathy, the capacity to empathize with others.”

“Many of the victims of pastors are afraid to come forward because of what it will do the church; but also because of the blowback that comes at the systemic level from an institution which, is very powerful. So you put people first, rather than institution.”

“Lived theology is more potent than written theology. So, if you hung out with Mr. Rodgers for fifteen years and worked with him, you would have experienced the divine reality more than if you had attended sermons on those fifteen years of Sundays.”

 

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Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde Assembly

Brent Lokker
Derek Turner Follower of Jesus, in love with @sarahjturner, father to @caro.turn & @kaaatters, owner of Milo, pastor @rivercharlotte. Amazed by Grace www.rivercharlotte.com

Jason Clark is a writer, speaker, and lead communicator at A Family Story ministries. His mission is to encourage sons and daughters to grow sure in the love of an always-good heavenly Father. He and his wife, Karen, live in North Carolina with their three children.

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