In this conversation, Jason and Bryant Spratlin discuss the goodness of God and the journey of rethinking God’s wrath as love, the impact of misinterpretation and bad theology, hearing God’s voice, parenting and apologizing, choosing to love and staying connected, identity, loving the religious, imaginary prayer, the fear of being wrong, rethinking hell, apokatastasis-the restoration of all things, the pleasure of our Father, awakening to the present love reality, and Jesus as the perfect minister. The guys discuss the story of the woman caught in adultery to reveal the paradigm of union as the third option Jesus offers all of us. Overall, this conversation highlights the importance of understanding God’s goodness and the transformative power of grace.

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Derek Turner lives in Charlotte, North Carolina, with his wife, Sarah. They have two daughters, Caroline & Kate. Together, they serve as lead pastors for River Church Charlotte. Derek also co-hosts the Rethinking God with Tacos podcast and loves to connect on all the socials. Derek believes “Love everyone the most” sums up what it means to be a follower of Jesus.

Jason Clark is a writer, speaker, and lead communicator at A Family Story ministries. His mission is to encourage sons and daughters to grow sure in the love of an always-good heavenly Father. He and his wife, Karen, live in North Carolina with their three children.

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