In this conversation, Bill Vanderbush and Jason discuss the shift from a desperate, performance-based Christianity to living in the goodness and simplicity of Christ. They explore the concept of the goodness of God and the danger of limited perception. They also touch on the deconstructed community and the reformational period the body of Christ is going through.

The conversation emphasizes the importance of living in union with Christ and beholding His authentic nature. Overall, the discussion highlights the need to embrace astonishment, wonder, and the simplicity of the gospel. Bill discusses his book ‘Unveiled Horizon’ and the motivation behind writing it for his children and future generations. He shares how the book resonated more with the New Age market than the Christian market, highlighting the disillusionment with Western Christianity and its organizational structures.

Bill talks about rediscovering neglected verses and the process of deconstructing his faith to focus on the goodness of God. He emphasizes the importance of resting in the finished work of the cross and the journey of radical commitment. The guys also explore the story of Peter in the Garden of Gethsemane and the concept of the long game of love. They dive into reconciliation and living in alignment with God’s intention. Bill emphasizes the importance of understanding and experiencing the fruit of the covenant that is available to us through Jesus.

The conversation explores justice and dismantling paradigms, removing accusation, and living in our true identity. It concludes with a discussion on universalism and the long game of love.

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Website: www.billvanderbush.com

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Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde Assembly

Derek Turner lives in Charlotte, North Carolina, with his wife, Sarah. They have two daughters, Caroline & Kate. Together, they serve as lead pastors for River Church Charlotte. Derek also co-hosts the Rethinking God with Tacos podcast and loves to connect on all the socials. Derek believes “Love everyone the most” sums up what it means to be a follower of Jesus.

Jason Clark is a writer, speaker, and lead communicator at A Family Story ministries. His mission is to encourage sons and daughters to grow sure in the love of an always-good heavenly Father. He and his wife, Karen, live in North Carolina with their three children.

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