Jason and Brooke connect with Ian Simkins and talk about community, the role of the table in ministry, and our identity being discovered in knowing ourselves as “the one Jesus loves.”

They dive into the challenges of tribalism and division and the need for curiosity and humility in engaging with others. Themes of self-worth, identity, and the concept of being loved are discussed as they explore the impact of workaholism, the need for validation, and the struggle to find value beyond accomplishments.

The conversation addresses the practical implications of being loved, the correlation between self-love and loving others, the importance of operating from a place of rest, the concept of mystery in faith, the beauty of curiosity, and the significance of valuing interruptions.

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Brooke Waters aims to see people live in the complete freedom available in Father God. As Founder of Path to Wholeness, Brooke helps people know they belong, are significant, and there is Hope. She received her BS in Psychology with two majors in Crisis Counseling and Addictions & Recovery, along with 20 years of experience in ministering to those who experienced trauma, abuse, and human trafficking. Brooke is married to Dan’l Waters, and together, they have five children and four grandchildren. She loves road trips and awkward moments.

Jason Clark is a relational theologian—a storyteller who writes to reveal the transforming kindness of the love of God. He has authored several books, including Leaving and Finding Jesus, & God Is (Not) In Control. He is the lead communicator at A Family Story and host of Rethinking God with Tacos PODCAST. He and his wife, Karen, live in North Carolina with their four children, Madeleine and Joseph, Ethan, and Eva.

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