C. BAXTER KRUGER & DAMON THOMPSON / PARTICIPATION IS OPTIONAL — BUT YOU’RE ALREADY IN THE DANCE
Participation Is Optional—But You’re Already in the Dance
This live 2025 Rethinking God with Tacos Family Reunion conversation with Baxter Kruger and Damon Thompson explores the profound themes of divine love, the nature of the gospel, and the importance of intimacy with God. Hosted by Derek Turner and Jason, the guys discuss the concept of beloved identity, the significance of faith, and the transformative power of understanding one’s union with God. Through personal anecdotes and theological insights, they emphasize the need for a deeper awareness of God’s love and the invitation to live in that reality.
For more on Baxter Kruger
Website: https://perichoresis.org/
For more on Damon Thompson
Website: https://www.damonthompson.com/
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MO THOMAS / INTO THE ABYSS, REDISCOVERING GOD THROUGH SCIENCE & LOVE
In this conversation, Mo Thomas, Brooke and Jason explore the journey of faith, touching on themes of deconstruction, the intersection of science and spirituality, and the sustaining power of love. They discuss the challenges of certainty in faith, the importance of questions and doubts, and the profound nature of union with the divine. Through personal stories and insights, they highlight the transformative experience of rediscovering God and the role of storytelling in conveying deep truths about love and restoration.
The conversation also explores the concept of apokatastasis, the idea that love ultimately prevails, and the importance of seeing beyond distortions to recognize inherent goodness in ourselves and others. The dialogue emphasizes the liberation found in embracing divine awareness and the invitation to live authentically in the moment. They also touch on the limitations of certainty in religious contexts and the significance of community and connection in the journey of faith.
For more on Mo Thomas
Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Into-Abyss-Discover-Identity-Infinite/dp/0999180665?tag=afamilystory-20
Coaching Website: https://tinyurl.com/3t5vj7wz
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10226413878157968&id=1373904747&rdid=YhVfdGyC2BR7LBRE
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THE ALEXANDERS / ESTABLISHING A KINGDOM CULTURE IN FAMILY
In this engaging conversation, the Alexander family shares their journey of establishing a Kingdom culture within their family. They discuss the importance of friendship in parenting, the role of performing arts in their lives, and how they navigate purpose and identity. The family emphasizes the significance of open communication, understanding the Father’s love, and living purposefully in alignment with their values. Personal stories of divine encounters and the importance of unity with distinction in family roles are also highlighted, providing a rich tapestry of insights into their family dynamics.
The conversation explores the importance of family support in pursuing individual purposes, the honor and respect within family dynamics, and the development of transformative educational resources for families. It emphasizes the significance of prophetic activation, creating spaces for friendship, and the healing of generational wounds. The discussion also addresses the need for detoxing from religious beliefs that hinder personal growth and understanding of God’s goodness.
For more on the Alexander Family
Website: https://www.schoolofkingdom.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dubb.alexander.3
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C. BAXTER KRUGER / CAN WE BE SAVED AFTER WE DIE?
In this conversation, Baxter and Jason delve into profound questions surrounding life after death, the nature of God’s love, and the burdens of conditional salvation. They share personal experiences that highlight the emotional turmoil faced by individuals grappling with the idea of salvation and the fear of judgment.
The discussion emphasizes the unconditional love of God, the transformative power of faith, and the importance of understanding God’s wrath as a reflection of His love. Ultimately, the conversation invites listeners to reconsider their beliefs about salvation, judgment, and the nature of God, fostering a sense of hope and connection.
Baxter and Jason explore themes of love, acceptance, and the nature of God through personal anecdotes and theological reflections.
The fellas emphasize the importance of understanding God’s love as relational rather than transactional and discuss the implications of universalism redemption in the context of Christian faith.
The dialogue also touches on the human condition, the concept of hell, and the transformative power of Jesus in our lives.
Originally aired on GAN, October 23, 2024.
Learn more about Baxter at www.perichoresis.org
For more information on Across All Worlds, www.acrossallworlds.com
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STEVE CHALKE / BUILDING OASIS: A MISSION OF HOPE
In this conversation, Steve Chalke shares his journey from a challenging childhood in South London to becoming a prominent church leader and social justice advocate. He discusses the founding of Oasis, a charity aimed at providing support and shelter for vulnerable youth, and reflects on the challenges faced in this mission. Chalke emphasizes the importance of personal experiences in shaping one’s understanding of faith and theology, particularly in the context of social justice and community service.
In this conversation, Jason and Steve explore profound themes of faith, love, justice, and the true message of Jesus. They discuss the challenges of understanding God’s goodness in the face of grief, the social activism of Jesus, and the misconceptions surrounding penal substitutionary atonement. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of love and relationship in healing and transformation, as well as the need for a restorative approach to justice. They also delve into the significance of original goodness, the impact of trauma on behavior, and the transformative journey of understanding God’s heart for humanity.
For more information on Steve Chalke
Oasis Charitable Trust: www.oasisuk.org
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Chalke
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GIL HODGES / CHOICE: THE MOST POWERFUL THING IN THE UNIVERSE… NEXT TO GOD
In this conversation, Gil Hodges shares his transformative journey from a troubled past involving counterfeiting to a life of faith and spiritual growth. He discusses the importance of understanding God’s true nature. He and Jason talk about Gil’s book, Choice: The Most Powerful Thing in the Universe… Next to God.
They talk about the role of choice in spirituality, and the significance of love and trust in building intimacy with God.
The conversation also touches on the challenges of community living, the potential future of humanity in relation to AI, and the joy of sharing tacos as a metaphor for connection and community.
For more information on GilHodges
www.kingdomtalksmedia.com
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ETHAN WILDE CLARK / CONNECTION COMMUNITY & AUTHENTICITY
In this fun and engaging conversation, Jason and his son Ethan explore the complexities of faith, family, and the next generation’s relationship with the church. They discuss personal encounters with God, the importance of authenticity, and the challenges faced by youth today.
The conversation also touches on parenting philosophies, church trauma, and the transformative power of love and identity in Christ. Through their candid exchange, they highlight the significance of fostering genuine connections and understanding in a rapidly changing world.
For more information on Ethan Wilde Clark:
www.linktr.ee/wilde.assembly
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MAKE ROOM WITH DEREK TURNER & JASON CLARK
21 Days With Jesus
Derek and Jason highlighted the connections being made on the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group. The guys also discussed Derek’s new book, Make Room, a 21-day journey through the Gospel of John. Derek wrote this devotional to help strengthen our trust in our God’s unconditional love, melt fear from our hearts, and help us see ourselves through the eyes of our Father. The conversation also touched on inerrancy and infallibility, seeing Jesus as the perfect theology, love being our guiding principle, worship songs that emphasize the finished work, and spiritual maturity. To join the Facebook
To join the RGWT Facebook Group:
www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos
For more on Derek’s Book, Make Room:
Amazon: www.amazon.com/MAKE-ROOM-21-Days-Jesus
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When the Veil Gets Lifted
Let me tell you how it is between my wife and me.
We could be driving down the road or sitting on the couch watching Super Store when suddenly I am gripped with a revelation of how amazing Karen is. I will remember how she was so patient with our kids earlier in the day, or how she just made me coffee and I didn’t even ask for it and it was the perfect mix of coffee, cream, and sugar. Or how stunning the back of her neck is.
I will turn to her and say that simple universal phrase—“I love you”—to which she always responds, “I love you too, gorgeous.”
But sometimes in these unveiled moments I’ll stop what I’m doing and say, “Karen, I’m feeling it right now! At this exact moment, I am having a revelation of my love for you! My heart, mind, and soul are loving you right now.”
“Right this instant?” She asks, her eyes bright.
“Yes, this exact moment.”
“Wow.” She smiles. “Now I’m feeling it too!”
Often this interaction is followed by an encounter . . . That is to say, there might be a shared smile or a hug, a kiss, or— Well, that’s none of your business.
I believe revelation, in the context of a love relationship, always leads to a greater love encounter, a greater intimacy. In fact, that’s the whole point of revelation. Karen and I have been married twenty-four years. We know that we love each other, we say it all the time, we decide to all the time. But these moments of revelation are priceless. They are birthed of a pure surrender one to another, where everything in the universe aligns and our hearts, minds, and souls experience the encounter. In these moments, nothing else matters! In these moments, the truth of our love is purely revealed and is always deepened.
I am convinced that when it comes to our relationship with God, revelation is meant to lead to a greater encounter. Revelation means “to remove the veil,” it’s about discovering what has always been there, it’s always about knowing in greater measure the love of God. I am also convinced that there is always more.
A Religious Ass
I was the good son and I knew it! I only got spanked once that I remember, and spankings were in vogue back then.
My grandmother and pastor favored me, and both my siblings and I knew it! I could do no wrong. I was their preacher boy! And so I became the preacher boy, the boy that knew how to call sin “sin.” I was especially good at noting it in my siblings.
I was also a handsome boy and, as the youngest child, I could laugh at myself which made me likable. Can you imagine a handsome, likable self-righteous, religious kid? What an ass!
I got all of the prophetic words! I knew I was going to be a somebody, yet I also had to live with myself; I knew all of the deep down dirty on Lloyd! And I was told sin was a big deal with God so I learned hypocrisy and self-loathing very early…
Can you imagine the experience of living with someone who is always smarter than you, better looking than you, more interesting than you, someone who thinks they are superior in most every category yet is an unstable, insecure schizophrenic?
Imagine living with me! Imagine 47 years of it! My wife Mary is my hero!
For over 5 decades I was a hypocritical, self-righteous, judgmental religious ass who found it easy to see these attributes in others… I was a judgmental paradox of brilliance and belching… an accused accuser!
In my late fifties, when the glorious gospel of grace finally began to peer through my thick veneer of self-made caustic religious hell, it was obviously too good to be true.
First, it can’t be this easy! Words like grace, rest, union, oneness, gift, innocence, perfection and love completely took the wind out of my inferior self-made sails, and the wheels off of my religious wagon.
But little by little the light of something more magical and beautiful than one can imagine began flooding my soul! I don’t get a say in how He feels about me, and I am His joy! His beloved! His favorite!
As this indescribable glory daily penetrates through the darkness that religion built, a new life is beginning to emerge!
Second, the proof has to be in the pudding! If it’s really true, Mary has to be the convincing clincher! After all she’s lived this hell with me.
So I guess y’all can just ignore everything I’ve just written about until Mary speaks!
So yeah, it’s “wait and see” for the rest of you, but I now know the truth about me! And that’s where it starts! Neither Mary or you will believe in me if I don’t believe in me. And believe me, I can hardly believe it myself, but He believes in me! Teehee!
“I believe, help my unbelief!”
I am His favorite! Not by any religious standard; not by any stretch! But His favorite none the less!
When I go to sleep I’m His favorite! When I wake up I’m still His favorite! Whether I behave well or fail miserably I’m still His favorite! This union, oh this union is the game changer! Christ in me and me in Him!
It’s my very own tangible universe to explore! And it’s not a theory or a theology, it’s my daily, moment by moment, experiential reality, complete with emotion. This oneness is more tangible than anything else on earth!
His love comes complete with touch, taste, sight, scent, and sound! It’s intimate and infinite! It’s knowable and mysterious! It’s heaven on earth! And as a son, it is both my right and my privilege. It’s humbling and empowering! It’s vibrant and alive! It’s His promise fulfilled! It’s the tree of life! And it’s ridiculously inclusive! I mean, if I’m in, who isn’t?
If you have ever been around me and picked up the vibe that you “were not enough“ or that you didn’t measure up, I’m asking for your forgiveness. I’m also asking that you please let me know. I’d love to make it right with each and every one of you personally! Because accusation is never the voice of God!
If the accuser found his voice in me, it’s wrong, and I’m sorry!
The thing about deception is that the deceived are the last to know that they are deceived. But I’m being set free by His glorious love! So, dear siblings, I’m sorry. Friends and neighbors, I’m truly sorry y’all, for being such a religious ass…
You matter! You are His prize! He’s so fond and proud of you just the way you are! Because He knows you better than anyone else, including you. And He believes what He knows about you to be true. You are the unique, one of a kind beautiful rendition of His favorite melody! You are His treasure! You too, are His favorite!
I pray that from here on when you leave my presence or read my words, you will feel valued and sense the love of our good heavenly Papa coursing through your veins!
Love you!
Lloyd