GODFREY BIRTILL / OTRAGEOUS GRACE
Outrageous Grace
In this episode, Jason sits down with singer/songwriter Godfrey Birtill for a raw, funny, and moving conversation about outrageous grace, creativity, religion, and the scandalous goodness of God. From psychiatric wards to worship conferences and presence-filled songs, Godfrey shares how divine encounters, playful creativity, and a deep understanding of grace transformed his life and music, inspiring a fresh perspective on God’s love and the power of song. He also shares the story behind lyrics that have carried healing to thousands. Together, the fella explore what happens when the gospel stops being about performance and starts becoming an awakening to union, love, and the realization that God has never been disappointed in us.
For more info on Godfrey:
https://www.godfreyb.com/
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JOEL CLARK, TRICIA HALSEY & JEEVA RATNATHICAM / DEEPLY ROOTED STORIES
In this special episode, Jason Clark introduces Deeply Rooted and the creative team behind the stories they have been quietly building for years—films, children’s books, and family-centered adventures designed to reveal the goodness of God, strengthen families, and awaken imagination. From the emotional feature film ALL IN to the wildly imaginative young adult book series I Changed the World, this conversation dives into storytelling, faith, creativity, healing, and why the stories we believe shape the people we become. It’s funny, vulnerable, inspiring, and full of behind-the-scenes insight into a growing movement of redemptive storytelling
For more info on the I Changed the World Books Series Offer, go to:
https://ichangedtheworldoffer.com/
For more information on Deeply Rooted, go to:
https://deeplyrootedstories.com/
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BRIAN ZAHND / UNION, PILGRIMAGE, & UNSEEN EXISTENCES
The Gospel Is Better Than You've Been Told: Union, Pilgrimage, and Unseen Existences
What if heaven isn’t a distant destination — but a different dimension that’s closer than we think? In this conversation, Jason sits down with theologian, pastor, and author Brian Zahnd to explore his new book Unseen Existences — and what it means to recover a vision of transcendence in a world flattened by consumerism, politics, and pragmatism.
We talk about:
- Why losing sight of heaven turns Christianity into partisan politics
- The pilgrimage of the soul — and why nothing real happens fast
- What Jesus weeping at Lazarus’s tomb tells us about God’s co-suffering with us
- The prayer Brian prayed on June 4th, 2000 that changed everything
- The censored chapter his publisher wouldn’t let him include — and where you can find it
- Judas, Lazarus, universal hope, and the long arc of love
This is one of those conversations that reminds you the gospel is so much better than we’ve been told.
To learn more about Brians:
brianzahnd.com
brianzahnd.substack.com
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ISI DE GERSIGNY / THE GOSPEL WITHOUT FEAR
In this rich and deeply moving conversation, Jason connects with Isi De Gersigny to explore the expansive, immersive, and measureless love of God. Together, they reflect on worship, trauma, healing, union, and the freedom that comes when we stop living for God’s approval and begin living from the reality that we are already beloved. This episode is a beautiful invitation beyond fear, separation thinking, and performance-based faith into the wide-open life revealed in Jesus. If you’ve ever wrestled with God’s goodness, deconstruction, or what it really means to live loved, this conversation will stay with you.
To learn more about Isi:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/isidegersigny/
Music: https://ditto.fm/life-love-blood?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/isidegersigny/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jubileechurchsydney
Jubilee Church: https://jubilee.org.au/
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BILL WINN WITH C. BAXTER KRUGER / GOOD DIRT
In this week’s conversation, long-term friend and host of the Good Dirt, Bill Winn, sits down with Baxter and Jason to explore the sacred-secular divide that has shaped so much of Christian thinking. From hilarious tales of roosters and bees to profound moments about porta potties and car repairs, Baxter, Jason, and Bill unpack how the presence of the Father, Son, and Spirit infuses all of life—not just church services or “religious” activities.
Together they challenge the false split between sacred and secular, showing how every vocation, and every moment in life can all be seen as sacred as we participate in the great life and dance of the Father, Son, and Spirit. Then the conversation turns to explore what union with Jesus truly means. Together, they unpack how union ends religious striving, revealing that we have always belonged to the Father, Son, and Spirit—even before the foundation of the world.
Through personal stories, scripture, and practical insights, they show that union isn’t about trying to get to God but waking up to the truth that Jesus has already united himself with us—even in our darkest places. It is this good news that brings a peace and freedom beyond anything we’ve known before.
For more on Bill Winn:
Website: https://www.billwinnbooks.com/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3_V5DDa9TfuWM4IORLtAwQ
For more on Dr. C. Baxter Kruger:
https://perichoresis.org/
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MARTIJN VAN TILBORGH / NEW WINE, NEW WINESKINS: A UNION APPROACH TO RETHINKING CHURCH
In this conversation, Martijn van Tilborgh and Jason explore the complexities of faith, community, and the nature of God beyond traditional religious paradigms. They discuss personal spiritual journeys, the importance of grace, and the need for rethinking church structures to foster individual revelation and community connection. The dialogue emphasizes the significance of listening, understanding cultural differences, and creating spaces for diverse expressions of faith, all while using tacos as a metaphor for community and connection.
For more information on Martijn van Tilborgh
https://www.martijnvantilborgh.com/
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STEVE CHALKE / THE JOURNEY OF ACCEPTANCE AND BELONGING
In this conversation, Steve Chalke and Jason explore themes of faith, love, and inclusion, reflecting on personal experiences and the legacy of influential figures like Tony Campolo. They discuss the impact of poverty and trauma on communities, the nature of God’s love, and the importance of relational theology.
The dialogue emphasizes the need for a re-evaluation of traditional theological views, advocating for a more inclusive and loving approach within the church and society.
For more information on Steve Chalke:
Oasis Charitable Trust: www.oasisuk.org
Academy For Hope: https://www.academyforhope.org/
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TULLIAN TCHIVIDJIAN / IT IS FINISHED
In this engaging conversation, Tullian Tchividjian and Jason explore the transformative power of grace and the theological shifts that lead to a deeper understanding of God’s love. They discuss personal stories of struggle and redemption, the importance of safe spaces in relationships, and the cultural reflections on grace in society. The conversation also touches on the role of recovery in understanding grace and the challenges faced within religious circles.
For more info on Tullian Tchividjian:
Website: https://www.tullian.net/
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RETHINKING GOD WITH TACOS / CHAPTER ONE: WHAT IS THE GOSPEL?
In this podcast, Jason Clark introduces his new book, ‘Rethinking God with Tacos,’ which explores themes of union, relationship with God, and the nature of the gospel. He shares insights from various conversations with guests on his podcast, emphasizing the importance of understanding the gospel as good news and the relational aspect of faith. The podcast also highlights the significance of community and upcoming events related to the book.
TAKEAWAYS
– The book ‘Rethinking God with Tacos’ is a culmination of conversations from the podcast.
– Union is a central theme throughout the book.
– The gospel is presented as good news, not just a theological concept.
– Jason emphasizes the importance of relationship with God.
– Baxter Kruger is highlighted as a foundational voice in the book.
– The nature of God is explored through a relational lens.
– The journey of faith is one of discovery and transformation.
– Community plays a vital role in the exploration of faith.
– Upcoming events will foster deeper connections and discussions.
For more on THE BOOK & COMMUNITY
Website: https://afamilystory.audiencetap.com/qc/wU0gQoHxDx
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GRAHAM COOKE & DIONNE VAN ZYL / RELATIONAL THEOLOGY
In this engaging conversation, Graham Cooke shares his journey from being an introvert to an ambivert, emphasizing the importance of humor and kindness in understanding God’s character. He discusses the transformative power of personal encounters with God and discusses the concept of relational theology, highlighting how these experiences shape our spiritual growth.
Graham and Dionne Van Zyl explore the significance of breakthroughs in our lives, emphasizing that a true breakthrough is about who we are becoming, rather than just the resolution of our circumstances. The guys also discuss themes of leadership and the transformative journey of faith.
The dialogue emphasizes finding peace amidst chaos, the significance of hiddenness and manifestation in one’s relationship with God, and the essence of faith in navigating disappointments. Graham talks about how asking the right questions can lead to deeper understanding and relationship with God, and how a movement is being built to equip people in their spiritual journeys.
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For more on Graham Cooke & Dionne Van Zyl
Website: http://brilliantmovement.com/JasonClark1187
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOne4P6sJV9kbpjiJSElDQA
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grahamcooke_official/
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