FATHER KENNETH TANNER / VULNERABLE GOD

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Jason sits down with pastor and theologian Father Kenneth Tanner to explore his new book, Vulnerable God, and how Jesus reveals both what God is truly like and what it means to be fully human. From Jesus’ hidden years and tears at Lazarus’ grave to the cross and resurrection, Father Kenneth reframes divine power as vulnerability, humility, service, and self-giving love rather than hierarchy and control. Their conversation ultimately becomes an invitation to remember our true identity: made by Love, in the image of God, and invited to “be human as God is human”—carrying peace, forgiveness, and reconciliation into the world.

For more info on Father Kenneth Tanner:
https://kennethtanner.substack.com/
https://www.instagram.com/kentanner/

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What if Jesus didn’t come to change the Father’s mind about us—but to change our minds about the Father? Jason sits down with Chris Gore to explore his new book, How Good Is the Father, Really?, and the staggering goodness of God revealed in Jesus. From union and the cross to wrath, punishment, healing, and justice, Chris challenges the punitive God many of us inherited and invites us to discover a Father who is “always only good.” Along the way, they explore why the Father never turned His face from Jesus, how wrath might actually be love confronting everything that destroys the beloved, and why the gospel isn’t about escaping earth but bringing love, healing, hope, and life to the world right now. For more info on Chris: https://www.chrisgore.org/

For more info on Chris:
https://www.chrisgore.org/

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MICOLE & BETHANY WALLACE / WHEN CHURCH HURT MEETS RADICAL HOPE

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What happens when church hurt, stage IV cancer, and deep theological reconstruction collide with an unshakable conviction that God is better than we’ve been told? In this deeply vulnerable conversation, Micole and Bethany Wallace share their remarkable journey—from serving fourteen years as worship pastors, to losing the ministry they thought would be home forever, to discovering Restoration City, walking through reconciliation with former friends, and facing Bethany’s stage IV breast cancer diagnosis.

Together they explore union with Christ, emotional healing, the impact of trauma on the body, the restoration of relationships, and the radical trust that grows when we stop pleading with God and begin to rest in His unwavering goodness. It’s a conversation about worship, healing, forgiveness, hope, and the long game of love that reminds us reconciliation is not just possible—it’s at the very heart of the gospel.

For more info
Restoration City Church – https://www.restorationcity.tv/

Micole and Bethany lead worship for our Rethinking God with Tacos Reunion. Join us this Sept (24-26) in Charlotte.
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/rethinking-god-with-tacos-reunion-2026-tickets-1986548921300?aff=oddtdtcreator

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JIM LOVEJOY / FIRE PITS, FAMILY & THE FUTURE OF CHURCH

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In this conversation, Jason and his son, Ethan, sit down with Jim Lovejoy for an honest, deeply personal discussion about leaving behind performance-based Christianity and discovering the freedom of beloved identity. Jimmy shares his remarkable journey from Marine, coach, and revival-driven evangelist to a father, mentor, and voice calling people into rest, family, and the love of God. The guys explore the difference between striving and learning, revival and reformation, church as an event versus church as family, and why the future of the Kingdom may look more like fire pits, shared meals, and authentic relationships than polished stages. If you’ve ever wondered whether God’s love is bigger than your performance, this conversation offers hope, healing, and a fresh vision of what it means to follow Jesus.

For more info on Jim:
https://www.thenorthgateoh.com/

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JUSTIN PAUL ABRAHAM / THE FUTURE IS BETTER THAN YOU THINK

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Justin Paul Abraham joins Jason for one of the most expansive conversations, exploring what happens when the gospel is no longer driven by fear, but by union, joy, and the limitless goodness of God. Together they unpack mystical encounters, the logic of love, contemplative spirituality, technology, creativity, AI, the future of humanity, and why the Kingdom isn’t retreating from the world—it’s transforming it. From the charismatic movement to ancient Christian mysticism, from heaven invading earth to discovering Christ in every corner of creation, this conversation invites listeners into a bigger, brighter vision of the gospel where love is the organizing principle of reality, and the future has never been more hopeful.

For more on Justin:
https://www.cobh.live/

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JOEL CLARK, TRICIA HALSEY & JEEVA RATNATHICAM / DEEPLY ROOTED STORIES

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In this special episode, Jason Clark introduces Deeply Rooted and the creative team behind the stories they have been quietly building for years—films, children’s books, and family-centered adventures designed to reveal the goodness of God, strengthen families, and awaken imagination. From the emotional feature film ALL IN to the wildly imaginative young adult book series I Changed the World, this conversation dives into storytelling, faith, creativity, healing, and why the stories we believe shape the people we become. It’s funny, vulnerable, inspiring, and full of behind-the-scenes insight into a growing movement of redemptive storytelling

For more info on the I Changed the World Books Series Offer, go to:
https://ichangedtheworldoffer.com/

For more information on Deeply Rooted, go to:
https://deeplyrootedstories.com/

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BRIAN ZAHND / UNION, PILGRIMAGE, & UNSEEN EXISTENCES

The Gospel Is Better Than You've Been Told: Union, Pilgrimage, and Unseen Existences

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What if heaven isn’t a distant destination — but a different dimension that’s closer than we think? In this conversation, Jason sits down with theologian, pastor, and author Brian Zahnd to explore his new book Unseen Existences — and what it means to recover a vision of transcendence in a world flattened by consumerism, politics, and pragmatism.

We talk about:

Why losing sight of heaven turns Christianity into partisan politics
The pilgrimage of the soul — and why nothing real happens fast
What Jesus weeping at Lazarus’s tomb tells us about God’s co-suffering with us
The prayer Brian prayed on June 4th, 2000 that changed everything
The censored chapter his publisher wouldn’t let him include — and where you can find it
Judas, Lazarus, universal hope, and the long arc of love

This is one of those conversations that reminds you the gospel is so much better than we’ve been told.

To learn more about Brians:
brianzahnd.com
brianzahnd.substack.com

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LLOYD CLARK / THE LIFE I DREAMED OF

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Jason sat down with his dad, Lloyd—his best friend—to talk about Lloyd’s memoir, The Life I Dreamed Of, a story they’ve been circling for decades. What unfolds is a journey through trauma, religion, and striving, into the surprising discovery that God was never distant. They explore the weight of calling, the lies of separation, and the slow awakening to a love that doesn’t need to be earned. This is a conversation about moving from fear to trust, lack to abundance, and performance to rest. And at the center of it all is this: you’re not trying to be enough, you are enough.

More info on Lloyd Clark: https://afamilystory.org/lloyd/
Amazon: https://amzn.to/3NM5dO3

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WM. PAUL YOUNG, MARTIJN VAN TILBORGH & MATT SEIFRET / THE SACRED UNDOING

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This episode of Rethinking God with Tacos is a raw, live-recorded conversation exploring some of the most difficult theological questions—wrath, hell, suffering, justice, and human brokenness—through the lens of a God who is fundamentally love. Recorded at Grace Orlando for the Sacred Undoing Conference, the throughline is a radical reimagining of God not as a distant judge but as a restorative presence, whose “wrath” is the fiery, healing force of love that seeks to destroy everything in us that is not of love’s kind, without ever harming our true identity. Through stories, humor, and honest dialogue, the conversation challenges traditional frameworks around sin, sacrifice, church, and judgment, reframing them as misunderstandings rooted in separation thinking, while inviting listeners into a deeper vision of union, restoration, and a God whose relentless affection aims to make us fully alive.

More info on Wm. Paul Young:
https://wmpaulyoung.com/

More info on Martijn van Tilborgh:
https://www.martijnvantilborgh.com/

More on Matt Seifret:
https://graceorlando.com/about/

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ISI DE GERSIGNY / THE GOSPEL WITHOUT FEAR

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In this rich and deeply moving conversation, Jason connects with Isi De Gersigny to explore the expansive, immersive, and measureless love of God. Together, they reflect on worship, trauma, healing, union, and the freedom that comes when we stop living for God’s approval and begin living from the reality that we are already beloved. This episode is a beautiful invitation beyond fear, separation thinking, and performance-based faith into the wide-open life revealed in Jesus. If you’ve ever wrestled with God’s goodness, deconstruction, or what it really means to live loved, this conversation will stay with you.

To learn more about Isi:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/isidegersigny/
Music: https://ditto.fm/life-love-blood?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/isidegersigny/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jubileechurchsydney
Jubilee Church: https://jubilee.org.au/

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