EDEN JERSAK / A LOVE THAT INCLUDES EVERYONE

“My mom exemplified this (The Tree of Life) further every time she invited the “black sheep” of the family to our family Christmas events. That was confusing to me as a child because in my mind, and in our culture, they were most certainly “Out,” yet that never deterred my mom from inviting them to our table.” Eden Jersak.

In this podcast, Pastor Eden shares about our heavenly Father’s grace, love, kindness, and all-inclusive love. The cross, the journey of inclusion, reconciliation, pastoring, and valuing humanity as Jesus does, this conversation is between two relational human beings endeavoring to love well.

THE CROSS with DEREK TURNER & JASON CLARK

In this first episode of season two, Jason and new host Derek Turner dive into the wonder of what Jesus revealed about our Father and humanity through the cross and resurrection.

FRANCOIS DU TOIT / JESUS IS WHAT GOD BELIEVES ABOUT YOU

Francois is an author most known for his current work, The Mirror Bible. In this interview, Francois talks about our Father’s great affection, inclusion, grace, intimacy, ministry, and the unveiled revelation of love! He also shares some of his story and how he came to write The Mirror Bible.

JONATHAN FOSTER / THEOLOGY OF CONSENT

“Consent is the depth of love…” Jonathan Foster shares about his book, Theology of Consent, where he blends René Girard’s scapegoating theory with open and relational theology. The guys talk about anthropology, mimetic theory, and the nature of love. This is a conversation for those already deep in the forest of theopoetics, life, love, the church, and theology.

Faith

confidence or trust: growing sure in the goodness of our heavenly Father…
STEVE MCVEY / QUATUM LIFE

STEVE MCVEY / QUATUM LIFE

“God didn’t want me because of anything I could do for Him; He wanted me just because He loves me.” Paradigm shifts, intimacy, eternal life, practical applied theology, a sustaining energy of a more subtle kind, the connection of all things, quantum science, quantum faith, the supernatural, miracles, signs and wonders, and union; in this conversation, Steve dives into the scientific universal nature of the love of God.“

Flipping Tables

Flipping Tables

So, Jesus flipped tables—not in the spirit of retribution but as a revelation of reconciling love. Jesus flipped tables in the authority of, “Father, forgive them; they know not what they do.” Jesus flipped tables in the power of “God in Christ, reconciling…oppressed and oppressor.” 1 Jesus was outraged by injustice, so He flipped tables in the justice of a “Love (that) keeps no record of wrongs.”

LOGAN BARONE / THE MYSTERY IN YOU

LOGAN BARONE / THE MYSTERY IN YOU

“Did Christ accomplish a potentiality, or did Christ accomplish a reality?”

Grace beyond theory, the road of union, discovering Christ in us and embedded in humanity, inclusion, the incarnation, experiencing God, and stories about church life and the journey of faith while searching for community; in this conversation with Logan Barone, the guys discuss the message of his book, The Mystery In You.

“Sometimes a story is written that changes everything. This book is an irresistible journey into transforming love. These are new and powerful thoughts from a modern day revivalist. Once they take hold they wont let go.”

Mark Batterson

Pastor of National Community & Bestselling Author of Circle Maker

Those struggling for identity will appreciate “Prone to Love” as a key to unlock and accept their true hidden self.  Enjoy!”

Rev Paul Johansson

Chancellor & Chairman of Elim Bible Institute and College

My Hermeneutic

My Hermeneutic

As a relational fella, all I can tell ya is, the more confident I become in reconciling love, the less hard stuff wrestling I do with the Book.

PETE SCHELLER / DANCING WITH WISDOM

PETE SCHELLER / DANCING WITH WISDOM

“For too long the image and understanding of God, the One Jesus called “Abba”, has been hidden from view or distorted beyond recognition. The unspoken cry of sons and daughters all over the world is ‘Give us our Dad back!’”

A renewed mind, western wisdom vs. God’s wisdom, theology in relational terms, and above all, a Father who doesn’t just love us, He really likes us; in this conversation, Pete Scheller shares from his new book, Dancing with Wisdom. The guys dive deep into the Father nature of God and laugh along the way.

The Wages of Sin… in Context

The Wages of Sin… in Context

What if “the wages of sin is death” is announcing the inherent consequences of sinful actions and what they will produce in this life, as opposed to saying if we sin, we deserve torment?

RUSTY & ERIN PLEUNE / CREATING A CULTURE OF CONNECTION IN MARRIAGE

RUSTY & ERIN PLEUNE / CREATING A CULTURE OF CONNECTION IN MARRIAGE

Hope, healing, intimacy, unconditional love, and acceptance; in this conversation, Rusty and Erin Pleune talk about the intentional steps they took to create a culture of connection in their marriage and how they now help couples do the same. They also dove into their journey of discovering community and deeper faith as they lean into the goodness of God.

The Slave/Master Paradigm Within The Church

The Slave/Master Paradigm Within The Church

Sadly, much of the church is full of behavior-focused, sin-counting, Older Brothers—slaving servants waxing eloquent on the master’s thoughts and plans while participating in dualism, nationalism, liberalism, moralism, wokeism, and a thousand other obligations outside of friendship.

SCHLYCE JIMENEZ / THE PATH

SCHLYCE JIMENEZ / THE PATH

God to Schlyce: “You never rebelled from me; you rebelled from a version of me that was never me…” Identity, the illusion of separation, trauma triggers and healing, how to hear the voice of God, experiencing the joy and wonder of continual fellowship with God; in this conversation, Schlyce Jimenez shares about her faith journey and her book, The Path. The Path helps readers discover how their life would be different if they could know the Father like Jesus did.

SETH DAHL / SPIRIT LED FAMILIES

SETH DAHL / SPIRIT LED FAMILIES

“I tell parents ‘You become the theology your kids believe” Engaging our kid’s imaginations, learning to recognize God’s voice, and encountering His love, life, joy, and friendship; in this conversation, Seth Dahl shares stories of transformation and gives insight into Spirit-led parenting. The guys talk about a good God and the journey into trust, intimacy, and union in the context of parenting.

A Hard Teaching?

A Hard Teaching?

‘You do not want to leave too, do you?’ Jesus asked the Twelve.

Simon Peter answered, ‘Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. We have come to believe and to know that You are the Holy One of God.’”

Equality As Jesus Revealed It

Equality As Jesus Revealed It

I’m describing equality as Jesus revealed it. It’s not “equals” based on measurements; it has nothing to do with finite thinking or microscopes. I’m writing about an equality revealed by Greater Love laying down His life for His friends. Self-giving, other-centered love is the birthplace of true equality and is discovered in union.

CHERITH FEE NORDLING / A PERMANENTLY HUMAN GOSPEL

CHERITH FEE NORDLING / A PERMANENTLY HUMAN GOSPEL

“The reason you can’t take your own human life seriously is because you’ve never taken my (Christ’s) life seriously.” The incarnation, Jesus as fully human, Jesus and His divinity, grace, cruciform love, leaving Gnosticism, resurrection fearlessness, freedom, and salvation as a human story; in this conversation, Cherith shares a beautiful gospel in which we are discovering how to enter into the life of Jesus!

The End Of Hierarchy In The Church

The End Of Hierarchy In The Church

But the Brian Simmons Passion Translation of that verse is my favorite, and I think it’s infinitely more accurate—not based on my academic prowess but on what I know about love.

It reads, “I have never called you ‘servants’… But I call you my most intimate friends….”

JONATHAN FOSTER / THEOLOGY OF CONSENT

JONATHAN FOSTER / THEOLOGY OF CONSENT

“Consent is the depth of love…” Jonathan Foster shares about his book, Theology of Consent, where he blends René Girard’s scapegoating theory with open and relational theology. The guys talk about anthropology, mimetic theory, and the nature of love. This is a conversation for those already deep in the forest of theopoetics, life, love, the church, and theology.

ALLEN ARNOLD / THE EDEN OPTION

ALLEN ARNOLD / THE EDEN OPTION

“The world is accelerating in the wrong direction. It feels like all we’re doing is trying to fix what’s broken. And it isn’t working. We’re exhausted, overwhelmed, and losing heart. Where is God in all this? Well, he’s living a different story. A story he’s inviting us into.” That’s the back cover introduction to Allen’s new book, The Eden Option. In this conversation, the guys dive in and explore a homeward journey, not to the Eden of the past, but a new Eden discovered in Christ. Union, rest, community, creativity, miracles, and hope, in this podcast Allen shares his journey into trust and maturing faith.

The Church and Her Hierarchy of Exclusion

The Church and Her Hierarchy of Exclusion

Exclusion is often the fruit of a retributive, or penal substitutionary atonement, view of the cross—as though the Father looked away, as though Jesus only died to save some, as though Greater Love didn’t reconcile all creation, as though what was lost in Adam wasn’t fully restored in Christ, as though at the cross there was a delineation between Jew or Gentile, black or white, lost or found, sinner or saint, gay or straight, republican or democrat, capitalist or socialist, Christian or Muslim…woman and ministry—as though there is still a veil that separates some from His all-inclusive, measurelessly reconciling love.

EDEN JERSAK / A LOVE THAT INCLUDES EVERYONE

EDEN JERSAK / A LOVE THAT INCLUDES EVERYONE

“My mom exemplified this (The Tree of Life) further every time she invited the “black sheep” of the family to our family Christmas events. That was confusing to me as a child because in my mind, and in our culture, they were most certainly “Out,” yet that never deterred my mom from inviting them to our table.” Eden Jersak.

In this podcast, Pastor Eden shares about our heavenly Father’s grace, love, kindness, and all-inclusive love. The cross, the journey of inclusion, reconciliation, pastoring, and valuing humanity as Jesus does, this conversation is between two relational human beings endeavoring to love well.

The Church and Her Inclusively Transformative Nature

The Church and Her Inclusively Transformative Nature

You see, as I’ve left every Jesus that isn’t reconciling. I’ve also left every idea of church that isn’t built upon the Cornerstone of Greater Love. I’ve left every aspect of the church that practices us or them, in or out, for or against; and when I find I haven’t, I repent…

The Price Is Too Steep

The Price Is Too Steep

I was heartsick and disturbed by the theological certainty he placed in the punishing nature of God—a certainty that was clearly crushing him. He was tormented over whether he’d “evangelized” enough. He wondered aloud if a prayer said in the horror of a violent car crash would be enough.

“What am I still lacking?” That was the cruel and punishing road my pastor friend traveled. He seemed to believe God counted his dad’s sins against him—and his dad had come up lacking.

My pastor friend’s pain was real, traumatizing, and tragically unnecessary.

You see, what he described to me wasn’t Christian hope. It was fatalism.

TOMMY MILLER / DEATHLESS

TOMMY MILLER / DEATHLESS

Union, inclusion, sin, grace, the covenants, a very high view of Jesus and humanity, and biblical immortality, Tommy Miller shares about his new book, Deathless. Tommy is passionate about seeing the local Church equip sons to look like their Father and create atmospheres that look like heaven, and it’s evident in this revelatory conversation.

Deathless” is a thought-provoking exploration of the concept of biblical immortality, and the guys have a brilliant conversation unpacking this thought.

Hell and the Older Brother

Hell and the Older Brother

The older brother was confronted with the offensive truth that he had been keeping score in a game his father wasn’t playing. When it comes to heaven and hell, I think most Western Christians are playing the same deterministic reward and punishment game…

BISHOP JAMIE ENGLEHART / MYTHS AND MISCONCEPTIONS

BISHOP JAMIE ENGLEHART / MYTHS AND MISCONCEPTIONS

Lucifer and the devil, God, and control, union vs. separation, awakening to Light, Life, and Love, and approaching scripture through sonship; in this conversation, Bishop Jamie Englehart breaks down myths for truth and sheds light on many of our religious misconceptions that have been built upon separation.

Jamie’s understanding of the Kingdom of God, the New Covenant, and the heart of the Father is evident in every word he speaks.

No Omissions

No Omissions

“Finished” means “ended or completed.” I looked it up. Case closed, settled, resolved. No one was overlooked by Christ at the cross—not even Judas. Paul told us, “…in Adam, all die, so in Christ, all will be made alive.”

“All” means, “everyone.” I looked it up.

THOMAS JAY OORD & KEITH GILES / DECONSTRUCTING HELL

THOMAS JAY OORD & KEITH GILES / DECONSTRUCTING HELL

Perhaps no modern church dogma has been more destructive to the mission of Jesus, created more atheists, or generated more religious trauma than that of eternal conscious torment (ECT).

In this podcast, the guys talk with Thomas Jay Oord and Keith Giles about their collaboration on Chad Bahl’s book, Deconstructing Hell. The book brings together experts in their fields to take the reader on a historical, philosophical, and theological journey to deconstruct this harmful doctrine, and the podcast highlights Oord and Gile’s contribution.

The guys dive into the “logic of love” and offer compelling pathways to reconstruct a biblical perspective on the nature of God and our understanding of hell.

Trust Is My Throughline

Trust Is My Throughline

Trust is the central theme of life here on earth. Trust is our throughline and the evidence of heaven coming to earth. Trust is eternal life in the ever-present now. Trust is a Triune God perfectly revealed in the God-Man, Jesus. Trust is discovered in Jesus’ prayer that we would know union as He did—first with Him, our heavenly Father, and the Holy Spirit; then with each other.

THE PROBLEM WITH RETRIBUTION WITH JASON CLARK

THE PROBLEM WITH RETRIBUTION WITH JASON CLARK

This podcast announces and features Jason’s new book, Leaving and Finding Jesus, in audio format. Retribution is the title of chapter seven and is presented in its entirety. In this chapter and podcast, Jason juxtaposes retribution with reconciliation and recognizes that a punishment lens on the nature of God is one of the reasons the church is navigating broken trust. It’s also why we currently find ourselves in a Deconstruction Movement.

God is as Jesus revealed Him, and on a cross Jesus forgave. God in Christ reconciled the world to Himself.

SHAWN HARNISH / UNCONDITIONAL LOVE

SHAWN HARNISH / UNCONDITIONAL LOVE

Pastoring a community, faith and living in mystery, putting unconditional love before understanding, kindness that leads to repentance, the nature of trust, punishment hell, Bible College, the Age of Certainty, and timeless reconciling love – in this conversation, Shawn Harnish shares about his 25-plus years of pastoring in one area and the transforming discovery of the finished work of the cross. Add to that, 25-plus years of friendship with Jason and a mutual love of the Buffalo Bills, and you got a profound and fun conversation – Go Bills!

ROBIN SMIT / IT IS FINISHED

ROBIN SMIT / IT IS FINISHED

“…You are absolutely perfect in the Father’s eyes! You can’t become more perfect than you already are. His heart is captivated by you!” Grace, resurrection, life, the finished work of the cross, and the impact on sin, death, and sickness, this conversation is an invitation to realize and awaken to the fact that we are co-seated with Christ. Robin speaks to the love of our Father, His affection – “He has always loved us we take His breath away!” We are loved in the same way our Father loved Jesus!

FELICIA MURRELL / EMPATHY; THE TREASURE OF THE INCARNATION

FELICIA MURRELL / EMPATHY; THE TREASURE OF THE INCARNATION

“The Spirit said to me, ‘I want you to hand to me everything that you believe to be true about God and let me hand back to you everything that is true.’”

Racism, deconstruction, shame, guilt, certainty, empathy, infinite mercy, grace, healing, and other-centered, self-giving love, in this amazing conversation, Felecia and Jason visit fear and prejudice while leaning into the AND of God’s always present, empathetic, reconciling love.

What Is God Like with Troy Mangum

What Is God Like with Troy Mangum

I recently heard a story about a boy who asked an Orthodox Priest if he could pray for Judas’ salvation.

The priest looked at the boy, smiled, leaned down, and responded, “Yes, of course!” When he looked up and caught the concerned and questioning gaze of the boy’s parents, he stood and whispered, “I don’t know what it could mean for Judas, but it will be very good for your boy.”

Every Breath I Breathe

Every Breath I Breathe

You’re comfortable in my skin, and I am comfortable being Your skin…Christ in me!

You are here, in me and around me, filling every atom and cell, absorbing every bit of darkness, every lie, every distortion. Every breath I breathe…

THE POLAR EXPRESS WITH JASON CLARK

THE POLAR EXPRESS WITH JASON CLARK

“It’s Christmas Eve, and instead of dreaming of the best day of the year, the boy is in his bedroom agonizing over the universal question: Does God…sorry, I mean Santa Claus, really exist?”

In this final podcast of 2022 and season three, Jason shares a story from his first book about the Polar Express, and faith. Whether you’re tired or wide awake, full or empty, lost or found, sick or whole, you are loved by Triune God who walks beside you, will never leave you, and invites you to awaken to His affection and love. “Glory to God in the highest, and on earth, peace, and goodwill toward men!”

Judas’ Salvation

Judas’ Salvation

I recently heard a story about a boy who asked an Orthodox Priest if he could pray for Judas’ salvation.

The priest looked at the boy, smiled, leaned down, and responded, “Yes, of course!” When he looked up and caught the concerned and questioning gaze of the boy’s parents, he stood and whispered, “I don’t know what it could mean for Judas, but it will be very good for your boy.”

Why Evangelize?

Why Evangelize?

I met with a church board member at his house to discuss the article for the purpose of connection and understanding—so we could move forward together. At least, that’s what I thought we were doing. Karen and I had no desire to leave the church; it was our extended family.

“If we can be saved after we die, why evangelize?” He asked.

“We evangelize because life is infinitely richer and more beautiful when lived in an ever-transforming revelation of God’s measureless love in the here and now—right?” I asked.

“Of course, yes!” he agreed wholeheartedly.

JASON GRIMSLEY / CROSS STITCHED

JASON GRIMSLEY / CROSS STITCHED

“Whether I’m high or low, in heaven or hell, nothing can ever separate me from God’s love.” Jason dives into a memoir he helped his friend, baseball legend, Jason Grimsley, write. They guys talk about Jason’s wild and unbelievable life. This conversation is part storytelling, part revelation, and all testimony of the love of God.

Jason shares about several hardships he’s faced, including a botched suicide attempt and the near destruction of his marriage. The guys shared insights and wisdom for the highs and lows of life. And all along the way, they highlighted the message of the book. Cross Stitched displays the very real and present love of God and the abundant life He offers us when we surrender to Him.

AN EMMAUS ROAD DECONSTRUCTION WITH MATTHEW HESTER

AN EMMAUS ROAD DECONSTRUCTION WITH MATTHEW HESTER

The Kingdom within, relational intimacy, a triune God reconciling the world to Himself, faith like Abraham, hermeneutics, and an Emmaus Road Deconstruction, in this podcast, Jason talks with his friend Matthew Hester about his new book, Leaving and Finding Jesus. “Repenting is a de and reconstruction all in one,” and in this conversation, the fellas talk about an Emmaus Road walk with Jesus where He gently and definitively reveals the Cornerstone of faith, God in Christ, reconciling the world to Himself.

BRIAN ZAHND / WHEN EVERYTHING’S ON FIRE

BRIAN ZAHND / WHEN EVERYTHING’S ON FIRE

“I felt like the Jesus I knew deserved a better Christianity than the Christianity I knew.” In this podcast, Zahnd shares about the Christian faith in alignment with Jesus and the journey he’s taken in discovering this good news! De- and reconstruction, a non-violent, non-retributive God who is reconciling the world to Himself, hermeneutics, hell, and the wonder of church deep and wide, in this conversation, the guys discuss a much richer, wider faith. The guys dive into Brian’s book, “When Everything’s on Fire,” a conversation that invites us to move beyond the crisis of faith toward the journey of reconstruction.

Dear Church, Welcome To The Revolution!

Dear Church, Welcome To The Revolution!

Dear church, this 2000-year-old Deconstruction Movement is part of the reformation we’ve longed for, the revival we’ve prayed for, the billion-soul harvest the church has prophesied, a people in search of kindness. It’s a repentance movement full of sons and daughters growing sure in love—and fathers and mothers growing confident in reconciliation.

We Had Thought He Was the One

We Had Thought He Was the One

It was also a confession; one every follower of Jesus has or will make at some point in our relationship with God; if we’re being honest. It’s a humble recognition that our certainty can be flawed, our ideology broken, our theology incomplete.

A Hard Teaching & Burning Hearts

A Hard Teaching & Burning Hearts

“Does this offend you?” the Emmaus Road Jesus asked His disciples. For many, it did, and understandably so. “From this time, many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed Him. ‘You do not want to leave too, do you?’ Jesus asked the Twelve.”

Simon Peter answered, ‘Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. We have come to believe and to know that You are the Holy One of God.’”

Panic In The Backseat

Panic In The Backseat

When Karen was five, she had her first and only panic attack. It was on a Sunday, after church. She had a tummy ache and, with it, a sudden terror. What if she died? She began to hyperventilate. So, dad and mom put her in the car, where she sat in the back seat between her grandmothers. And they raced to the hospital.

In that moment of paralyzing fear, when five-year-old Karen thought she was dying, she told her grandmothers she wanted to ask Jesus into her heart.

And she did.

The Adventures of a Dyslexic Map Reader

The Adventures of a Dyslexic Map Reader

Everything in this next story is true, metaphorically…

One day I summited a mountain. While taking in the stunning view, I discovered a systematic friend had also just arrived and was enjoying the same vista. We embraced and then, filled with wonder, reveled in our shared awe of the landscape – it was Revelation.

Tattoos, The Trucker Life and a Better Jesus

Tattoos, The Trucker Life and a Better Jesus

Dave was a Christian, and Jesus was his best friend. Mine, too. Truly. But when we talked about Jesus, Dave’s thoughts were fuller and better than mine. We both used the same words to describe Jesus, but Dave’s interpretation was deeper and more complete. Dave’s understanding of God’s goodness was also better than I understood it.

THERE IS NO “US OR THEM” AT THE CROSS

THERE IS NO “US OR THEM” AT THE CROSS

This podcast highlights Jason’s book, Leaving and finding Jesus, where he writes about his deconstructing faith journey. The book is Jason’s Emmaus Road discovery of a love that is reconciling all creation; a journey where he’s awakening to a burning heart while leaving every Jesus who won’t lay His life down for His friends. 

On Deconstructing Well…

On Deconstructing Well…

The sin of certainty is a phrase I’ve heard over the last few years, mainly by those deconstructing. It’s a phrase employed to point out hypocrisy within the church. And there’s plenty to point out. It’s a phrase used to highlight the cruel and punishing things done by the church in the name of love. And there’s plenty to highlight…

5Q – THE FIVEFOLD WITH BRANDON KELLY

5Q – THE FIVEFOLD WITH BRANDON KELLY

Derek and Jason dive into the fivefold (APEST) typology of ministry as articulated in Ephesians 4:1-1 with Brandon Kelly, the co-director at 5Qcollective. APEST stands for the Apostolic, Prophetic, Evangelistic, Shepherding, and Teaching intelligence that Jesus gifted to his body.

The guys discussed the fivefold in connection with the nature of God as non-hierarchal and inclusive, laced throughout creation and culture, reconstituted and perfectly exemplified in the life and ministry of Jesus, embedded into the very foundations of the Church, and subsequently expressed through the lives of the countless saints that make it up.

Better Than Our Best Understanding

Better Than Our Best Understanding

Mankind has been submitting the goodness of God to our broken experiences since the fall. But thankfully, Jesus is the goodness of God revealed, and He climbs inside every god-box we create and blows them up from the inside with His goodness.

WM. PAUL YOUNG / ETERNAL LIFE, THE EVER PRESENT NOW

WM. PAUL YOUNG / ETERNAL LIFE, THE EVER PRESENT NOW

“Eternal life is not on a timeline, it is the ever-present now.”

Wm Paul Young, the author of The Shack, talks with Lloyd and Jason Clark about eternal life, an authentic friendship with our Father where we are free to live in the ever-present now. Union, peace, grace, expectancy, trust, facing our fear, the incarnation, death, writing for the one, and stories about Pauls’s friends on death row and the Shack movie, this is an authentic and vulnerable conversation.

If Then The Light Within You

If Then The Light Within You

After Jesus tells us about how important our perception of God is, how the eye is the gateway to wholeness or brokenness, He says something amazing and often overlooked.

“If then the LIGHT WITHIN YOU is darkness…”

It seems our perception doesn’t change the nature of light nor its inhabitation. Even if we perceive the light within us as darkness, it remains light and remains within us. if there is no separation between us and God, then the question isn’t, “Is the light within us?” it’s, “How do we perceive it?”

WINN COLLIER / WE BELONG TO ONE ANOTHER

WINN COLLIER / WE BELONG TO ONE ANOTHER

The thread through all Winn Collier’s work is delight in the God who exists as the blazing center of everything that is good, beautiful, and true; and you feel that in this conversation. In this podcast, Winn and Jason talk about God’s hope and heart for all creation to know we belong to one another. The guys dive into wholeness, cruciform love, and what it means to be fully human.

Then Winn talks about his friendship with Eugene Peterson, writer of The Message Translation. Winn shares about the biography he recently released on Eugene’s incredible life, A Burning In My Bones, and on their shared heart for pastors and the church!

A Relational Theologian

A Relational Theologian

Relationship is the only theological lens through which I can communicate authentically and with any effect. Love is my doctrine. Kindness my dogma. The goodness of God my creed.

FAITHFULLY CONNECTED WITH DEREK TURNER & JASON CLARK

FAITHFULLY CONNECTED WITH DEREK TURNER & JASON CLARK

Matt Chandler, pastor, and writer, recently used the phrase “a sexy fad” when describing the deconstruction movement. Derek and Jason highlight his statement to dive into the nature of their own de/ and reconstruction. This podcast dives into sin, grace, reconciliation, and God’s love for all His kids, the church deep and wide. Ultimately, the guys kick off season three embracing Rom 8:38-29 That nothing… “will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

LEIF HETLAND / THE LOVE AWAKENING

LEIF HETLAND / THE LOVE AWAKENING

In this conversation Leif, Mark Appleyard, and Jason dive into Leif’s new book, The Love Awakening. Through personal stories, the guys discuss the powerful, supernatural Baptism of Love that breaks off shame, affirms identity, and reveals the unconditional love of the Father. This is a life-giving conversation around union, evangelism, and the miraculous.

A Wonderful Life!

A Wonderful Life!

Every life on this planet is in part a revelation of the creativity, diversity, and symmetry in the heart of God and an ever-expanding canvas paraphrase of the gospel!

Can I see and love what Papa sees and loves in every other person today?

The Incarnation, Christ in us!

JOHN ELDREDGE / RESILIENT: RESTORING YOUR WEARY SOUL

JOHN ELDREDGE / RESILIENT: RESTORING YOUR WEARY SOUL

The human soul has a built-in yearning for joy and beauty and all good things. But that craving for life has taken a real beating in recent years. Between false promises of ease and comfort on one side and the sheer trauma of global disease and disasters on the other, people today are facing a shortage of peace, happiness, and strength. 

In this conversation, John and Jason dive into John’s new book, Resilient. The guys talk about life and faith during and since the pandemic. They dive into the evidence of trauma, how to discover peace in the midst of disappointment, the dark night of the soul, de- and reconstruction, and ultimately union. This conversation reveals a path toward genuine recovery and resilience provided by Jesus himself.

JUSTIN STUMVOLL / LOVE IS THE KEY

JUSTIN STUMVOLL / LOVE IS THE KEY

Justin Stumvoll is a speaker, teacher, and life consultant who knows the kindness of God and loves to create space for individuals to find healing so they can be their most authentic selves Just dives into Love being the key to helping folks walk through the gritty, vulnerable and real approach to transformation. This was a fast-paced conversation where the guy’s traded stories about the reconciling nature of God; they talked about punishment, self-judgment, reconciliation, justice, sin, grace, freedom from addiction, and more. This podcast is bursting with the kindness of God that transforms the world.

icuTalks / End The Stigma With-In The Church

icuTalks / End The Stigma With-In The Church

Last month I had the opportunity to speak at icuTalks on the topic of Ending Stigma in the Church.

I was incredibly honored and took all 26 of my 25 minutes to talk about a reconciling God in a church that often perceives him through the lens of retribution. If you’re curious about the new book I am finally wrapping up, Leaving & finding Jesus, this is a good introduction.

A Name Like Honey

A Name Like Honey

This isn’t a breakup book, it’s an expression of our friendship. And an expression of His great affection for you. I wrote in the context of my ever-expanding friendship with Jesus so you might further know Greater Love.

JOHN CROWDER / TRINITARIAN THEOLOGY

JOHN CROWDER / TRINITARIAN THEOLOGY

John Crowder pulls from the different streams of the church to talk about Christilogical Trinitarian theology, grace, union, contemplative practice, intimacy, and mystical Christianity. John and Jason dive into the Cross, Western atonement theories, and the religious industry built upon separation; how Jesus is healing the human race. John describes a relationship with a person, Christ. He invites us to embrace mystery so we might discover that God looks like Jesus.

KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR / LIFE, LITERATURE, & GOD

KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR / LIFE, LITERATURE, & GOD

Karen Swallow Prior is a Reader, Writer, and Professor. In that order, which was discussed in this conversation along with the power of language, the Word becoming flesh, the connection of imagination with logic and reason, empathy, trauma, the theodicy of Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein, and love being the center of our conversations. Karen also shares about getting hit by a literal bus and how she grew in her understanding that her life is in God’s hands.

You Can’t Get There From Here

You Can’t Get There From Here

“What am I still lacking?”That question cuts to the heart of the matter. And I imagine Jesus was thrilled by it. It’s a humdinger, a recognition that even though the young man kept all of the commandments, something was missing…

SCOTT CROWDER / LEARNING TO BE PRESENT

SCOTT CROWDER / LEARNING TO BE PRESENT

Scott Crowder is a pastor, singer-songwriter, and one of Jason’s closest friends. The guys dive into their love for the church, about learning how to be present with God, ourselves, each other, and our community. Scott talks about creating church cultures that practice the fruits of the Spirit, learning to lead ourselves and others in seasons of joy and sorrow, that “success” isn’t about numbers, cool fads, or being ‘front runners,’ it’s discovered in community.

THOMAS JAY OORD / OPEN & RELATIONAL THEOLOGY

THOMAS JAY OORD / OPEN & RELATIONAL THEOLOGY

Thomas Jay Oord shares about open relational theology; how it connects with the way we live and matches our deepest intuitions. The guys talked about a relational God who is genuinely loving, looks like Jesus, and walks through each day with us, impacting and impacted by our friendship.

Thomas describes an uncontrolling, loving God, that harmonizes with scripture. In this podcast, he dives into the subjects of hell, prayer, and evangelism all through the lens of open relational theology.

I May Be A Better Atheist Than You…

I May Be A Better Atheist Than You…

“But you still consider yourself a Christian!” He responded with anger.

“Yes, but not as you define it.” Then I added, “I am absolutely in love with God, just not the one you’re angry at. Man, when it comes to that god, I may be a better atheist than you.”

A Family Story Film Project

A Family Story Film Project

A Family Story pairs classically trained actors with best-selling children’s books. Children’s imaginations will soar to new heights as they watch their favorite characters come to life.

ROD WILLIAMS / UNION WITH DISTINCTION

ROD WILLIAMS / UNION WITH DISTINCTION

Union, a Triune God, mutual indwelling others-centered love (perichoresis) approaching scripture to discover Jesus, and communion are some of the themes Rod Williams dives into. What if “all” means “all” and God isn’t distant? There is no distance, no separation in God and this conversation is a beautiful invitation to awaken to that discovery and our union with Him.

Religion vs. Grace

Religion vs. Grace

“Christianity is not a religion: it is the proclamation of the end of religion. Religion is a human activity dedicated to the job of reconciling God to humanity and humanity to itself. The gospel, however – the good news of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, is the astonishing announcement that God has done the whole work of reconciliation without a scrap of human assistance. It is the bizarre proclamation that religion is over – period!” Writes F. Robert Capon.

Good Soil

Good Soil

As a kid, I listened in earnest when this parable was preached. You see, I really wanted to be good soil. But I could do the math well enough to realize the odds were against me, cause 3 out of 4 soils suck.

It seems 75% of all soil is in for some bad news. But there was also good news, for 25% of us. And that was the gospel I was raised in.

A lot of those early formative prayers could be boiled down to “Dear God, I was bad soil again today, please help me beat the odds tomorrow, amen”

SCOT MCKNIGHT / A CHURCH CALLED TOV

SCOT MCKNIGHT / A CHURCH CALLED TOV

Co-Author of A Church Called TOV, Scot McKnight talks about his new book written in response to the abuses of power, sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse within the leadership of Willow Creek, Harvest, and sadly churches of all shapes and sizes.

We talked about TOV (which means goodness) and how when we practice empathy, compassion, extending grace, putting people first, telling the truth, promoting justice, and serving others, TOV emerges in the culture and we all become more Christlike.

Deconstruction: Dear Church, Welcome to The Revolution

Deconstruction: Dear Church, Welcome to The Revolution

I remember the first time I heard the term ‘deconstruction.’ While I grasped the metaphor, the word didn’t resonate with me.

I’ve certainly done some spiritual deconstructing in my life, but I am inclined to use a descriptor more in line with ‘reconstruction.’ This is partly because I’m a ‘glass half full’ guy; at least, I want to be. But also, my spiritual journey has been less about what I tore down, and more about what replaced it.

Here’s To Bigger Dreams

Here’s To Bigger Dreams

I continue to discover that Acts 2:17 is true, dreaming is an old man’s game, but the older I get the more I discover that only children can truly play it. Dreaming is for children who have chased down vision, failed, lived through disillusionment, disappointment, loss, sorrow, and endless rejection, and still surrender their hearts to the wonder, innocence, kindness, and goodness of Love…

Kindness

Kindness

It’s His kindness that exposes our arrogance and hypocrisy, that knocks us off our high horses; the same kindness that violently knocked Paul on his ass exposing his elite violent unkindness toward God’s beloved. And it’s His kindness that exposes our ignorance, broken ideology, and oppressive theology, that gently reveals resurrection life; the same kindness shown on a road to Emmaus when God hid Himself so His beloved could discover union.

Jesus, The Stranger

Jesus, The Stranger

I think Jesus showed up as a stranger, so their limited ideas regarding the goodness of God wouldn’t cut them off from experiencing the goodness of God…so their limited ability to understand friendship with God wouldn’t cut them off from experiencing the friendship with God…so their theology wouldn’t undermine their ability to encounter the nature of Gods kindness…so their understanding of the reconciling love of God could be experienced without their belief in the retributive nature of God getting in the way…so the law would not cut them off from experiencing grace…so their understanding of mercy could bend the knee to mercy…so their thoughts on justice wouldn’t divorce them from experiencing justice

Can You Be Saved After You Die?

Can You Be Saved After You Die?

In measurement-based systems, God’s forgiveness, and grace, and kindness, and reconciling love are ultimately limited aspects of His nature, while we redefine wrath and condemnation as God’s eternal and defining attribute…

What Am I Still Lacking?

What Am I Still Lacking?

The young fella replied, “All these I have kept; what am I still lacking?”…“What am I still lacking? It’s a good question, a recognition that something is missing, an acknowledgment that something still doesn’t measure up, a confession of incompleteness. What am I still lacking? is the conclusion of living in the context of law instead of grace. What am I still lacking? is the beginning and end of every transactional approach to God.

Flip Your Lid with Kim Honeycutt

Flip Your Lid with Kim Honeycutt

I had the incredible honor of conversing with psychotherapist Kim Honeycut for her podcast.

Below is a synopsis of our conversation. It was a good one!

Jason Clark is a pastor, writer, producer, and many more titles. He is also a cisgender, white male who was removed from a church because he had different ideas about the Bible. This is his story about leaving and rediscovering Jesus.

Equality With God?

Equality With God?

..I believe Jesus is God’s thoughts regarding equality; that the definition of equality is discovered in a triune God stepping into flesh and blood. And I think Jesus, fully God and fully man, displayed this equality through His union, oneness, and intimacy with Father and Holy Spirit.

The Glory of God… Without Lifting A Finger

The Glory of God… Without Lifting A Finger

The romance is in the truth that God always loved me, before my co-operation or obedience. Long before I put my trust in Him, He was passionately in love with me. I have always been the apple of His eye! “I was in Him before I was in Adam!” And the incarnate Christ redeemed the glory that I already was!

Stubborn In The Right Direction

Stubborn In The Right Direction

Love is how I address politics, religion, culture, the news cycle, nationalism, the United Nations, COVID, Vaccines, flat earthers, and misplaced trust in corporations and government…

Dear, Desperately Seeking…

Dear, Desperately Seeking…

I will forewarn you this email will be abundant with questions… Here goes nothing… Why do we believe the Bible, how do you view and read the Bible, why are there so many different religions that seem to have similar ideas, do you believe in hell, what is it, who goes there, why do some oppose your ideas and why don’t they see it the same way, who’s right, who’s wrong, what and who should I believe. How about psychics who believe in Jesus, aren’t they similar to prophets, what’s the difference, how about the LGBTQ community, are they sinners and why aren’t they included in the kingdom, and the list goes on and on…

The Emmaus Road

The Emmaus Road

Jesus, the Stranger, joins me on my journey; His reconciling love burns within me and invites me to recognize and awaken to the burning. Jesus’ love invites me into mystery and revelation until I am reflecting my redeemer, discovering and yielding to His image and likeness within me, so I would know union, that we might be one.

LEAVING & FINDING JESUS

LEAVING & FINDING JESUS

Jason introduces the book he is currently working on, Leaving (& finding) Jesus, which challenges readers to stop building their faith upon the broken foundations of a transactional view of God, and instead, embrace the powerful understanding of reconciliation and self-giving love that truly transforms our lives and our world.

Stoning And Sacrificial Love

Stoning And Sacrificial Love

Those men holding stones? They were participating in their death devotion; a vicious spirit of sin-focused retribution which is counter to the gospel of Jesus. Those men did not understand what spirit they were participating in; through stoning the woman, they condemned themselves to the same retribution because those who use stoning die by stoning… Because, in the paradigm of good versus evil, sin is our ultimate judge and all have sinned…

Inheritance In the Saints

Inheritance In the Saints

The Inheritance is the final sermon of the “Unspoken Sermons” series and a true reflection and summary of MacDonald’s thoughts. Abba, our Heavenly Father, is the beginning and end and everything in between…

Outwitted

Outwitted

But love and I had the wit to win: We drew a circle and took him In!  

That is the gospel of Jesus on a cross; that no matter the circles drawn to shut people out, Love draws bigger circles, Love says, “We all belong, we become!”

10 Rules Of Engagement For Social Media

10 Rules Of Engagement For Social Media

Sacrificial love is my guide. I know this love to be like Jesus on a cross, unoffended, forgiving, and reconciling all to Love. There is no “us and them” in this good news, we all belong to each other. With that in mind, here are some thoughts I have had through the years…

BRIAN MCLAREN / FAITH AFTER DOUBT

BRIAN MCLAREN / FAITH AFTER DOUBT

“Christian faith, for me, is no longer a static location but a great spiritual journey…what matters most…is not where we are but where we’re going.” This podcast is a gentle invitation to discover a way of faith defined by love. Brian and Jason discuss navigating rejection, stepping away from literalism, and inerrancy in our approach to scripture and faith, and their personal journey of trusting that God is better than our best thoughts about Him.

Interstellar Love

Interstellar Love

Brand, quietly at first, but then with greater conviction says, “Maybe it means something more, something we can’t yet understand. Maybe it’s some evidence some artifact of a higher dimension that we can’t consciously perceive… Love is the one thing we’re capable of perceiving that transcends dimensions of time and space. Maybe we should trust that even if we can’t understand it yet…”

AWAKENING! with DEREK TURNER & JASON CLARK

AWAKENING! with DEREK TURNER & JASON CLARK

An infinite love, the nature of revelation, a kindness that changes our minds, the joy of our salvation discovered as we awaken to the resurrection, the risen Christ within us, in this podcast Derek and Jason discuss how all creation is awakening to the transforming certainty of sacrificial love and resurrection life.

The Faith That Kills You?

The Faith That Kills You?

Austrian born in 1879, Franz Reichelt ended up in France. He died in 1912.

He was a tailor, a designer, and an inventor. And he had a vision. He was intent on helping aviators survive large falls should they be forced from their aircraft mid-flight.

Franz was a parachuting pioneer and today is occasionally referred to as the ‘flying tailor.’ He designed the first prototype, it was not like what we know today, no canopy above. It was a wearable parachute.

KRISTIN DU MEZ / JESUS AND JOHN WAYNE

KRISTIN DU MEZ / JESUS AND JOHN WAYNE

Patriarchy, authoritarian rule, the nature of power and privilege in America and the Church, the deconstruction movement, Christians in politics; in this podcast, Professor and Historian Kristin Du Mez, examines the impact of perhaps the most influential subculture in this country, white evangelicalism. This conversation explores how evangelicals have stepped away from the Jesus of the Gospels, from sacrificial love. “But what was once done, can be undone.”

Love And Religion

Love And Religion

Love sets us free to be everything God created us to be. Religion and shame have no power to accomplish that! So, speaking the TRUTH in LOVE is NOT shame-based. It’s NOT about exposing and confronting your brother’s sin! It’s about helping your brother or sister get a revelation of their true value and helping them see the truth about how our Father sees us! God is Love! Mercy triumphs over judgment!

BRIAN SIMMONS / THE PASSION TRANSLATION

BRIAN SIMMONS / THE PASSION TRANSLATION

“The bible, minus love, equals false teaching, false living, and fosters an anger in the soul of man.” Brian Simmons, author of The Passion Translation, talks about approaching scripture with a love theology, the oppressive impact of hyper literalism, women in ministry, equality, union, Jesus’ humanity inside the Trinity, the finished work of the cross, and the passionate, powerful, transforming love of God.

How Much Faith Do We Need?

How Much Faith Do We Need?

So, “Why couldn’t we do what you did?” And Jesus answered. “It’s because you have so little faith.” And at first read, in a world defined by measurements, that statement makes sense. If you were to ask me why your car stalled a hundred miles from home and I said, “It’s because you have so little gas,” you would think, “OK, so I just need more gas.” We read, “It’s because you have so little faith,” and our minds naturally form the question, “So, how much faith do we need? What is the measurement?” Good news, Jesus tells us! Even better news, it makes no sense…

DAVID TENSEN / YOU ARE NOT ALONE

DAVID TENSEN / YOU ARE NOT ALONE

Trauma, pain, empathy like Jesus, and healing for the oppressed, misunderstood, lost, or broken; in this podcast David Tensen shares how we are loved and not alone. Addressing how shame and condemnation are compounded by religion, the guys talked specifically about abortion and the LGBTQ community with an invitation to love like Jesus, through our union with God and reconciliation.

CARLOS PADILLA / WALKING IN GOD’S POWER

CARLOS PADILLA / WALKING IN GOD’S POWER

Healing, miracles, the power of God, evangelism through the gospel of inclusion, faith, and reframing repentance, Carlos shares about his journey of discovering that the miraculous, or a transformed life, is simply about discovering God’s love and our origin and union in Him.

RANDALL WORLEY / BRUSHSTROKES OF GRACE

RANDALL WORLEY / BRUSHSTROKES OF GRACE

“The two greatest myths that we, as humans, believe, are the myth of separation and the myth of scarcity.”

Grace, empathy, spiritual maturity, identity, destiny, purpose, and a sense of our eternal significance and worth; in this podcast, Randall Worley dives headlong into the measureless transforming and reconciling mystery of the love of God.

Time Travel and The Omnipresent Nature of Love

Time Travel and The Omnipresent Nature of Love

What if today, while I write, I am also in the “cloud of witnesses” cheering on myself, my family, my friends, and the sons and daughters of God as we awaken to love? What if, while you read this, you are also seated in Christ at the right hand of my Father? (See Heb 12:1 & Eph 2:6) What if we have been invited to live from the measureless omnipresent love of God that dwells within us? What if every prayer, every promise, every dream, every hope has its beginning and end in the measureless, retroactive, proactive, reconciling, omnipresent love of God?

Adoption as Transformation with George MacDonald

Adoption as Transformation with George MacDonald

In MacDonald’s sermon “Abba, Father!” he defines spiritual adoption as transformation. For him, as it was for St. Paul, adoption was not our familiar western version of taking a non-family member into our family, but an eastern one of a spiritual coming of age, a Jewish bar mitzvah. For us, it is a transformation from within of both an internal and external nature…

THE DE/RECONSTRUCTING PARENT WITH SARAH TURNER & KAREN CLARK

THE DE/RECONSTRUCTING PARENT WITH SARAH TURNER & KAREN CLARK

Sarah Turner and Karen Clark take the hosting reins to share their de/reconstructing faith journey and how, primarily through parenting, they began to rethink who God is and their approach to scripture, church, and ministry.

From Harry Potter and the college years to church life – the good, the bad, and the ugly, they talk about how parenting for connection and living an honest relationship with a loving God, is the most transformative thing we can do in our lives, our kids lives, and in ministry.

Inerrancy or Error?

Inerrancy or Error?

But, when I address literal inerrancy, I am not juxtaposing inerrancy with error, I am juxtaposing inerrancy with sacrificial love and resurrection life, with Jesus. I’m not playing the game of good or evil, right or wrong, inerrant or in error; I’m simply writing about the authority of sovereign love…

WHEN LOVE COMES TO TOWN / with DEREK TURNER

WHEN LOVE COMES TO TOWN / with DEREK TURNER

He came and he walked beside us, He said, “I will never leave you, I will never forsake you; you are not alone, you belong.” When we discover this love, we are transformed and we begin to love like He does. On Palm Sunday Derek speaks about the cross and how we are invited to live surrendered and sure in love. He talks about laying down our loves, loving our enemies, and seeing the kingdom come.

GOD IS NOT IN CONROL / SOVEREIGN LOVE with JASON CLARK

GOD IS NOT IN CONROL / SOVEREIGN LOVE with JASON CLARK

What if control is a flawed word to describe God’s sovereignty? What if there is an infinitely better word, a greater revelation, LOVE! Through a fresh look at God’s sovereignty, Jason invites you into a transforming encounter with the love and goodness of our heavenly Father.

Literal Inerrancy and Child Sacrifice?

Literal Inerrancy and Child Sacrifice?

For years a literal, inerrant approach to scripture had me reading this story and wrestling with the nature of God’s goodness instead of the nature of man’s fallen thinking.

As though a good god is a god who would partner with the idea of child sacrifice to, in some way, test his kids. As though Abrahams’s demonic belief in child sacrifice is meant to define what God is like instead of what Abraham was like; what a fallen mindset is like, what we, humanity, are capable of attributing to the nature of God…

DOUG CREW / WHAT DOES LOVE LOOK LIKE RIGHT NOW?

DOUG CREW / WHAT DOES LOVE LOOK LIKE RIGHT NOW?

Navigating through loss with a good God, experiencing the presence of God as a loving Father, loving our neighbor, democrat and republican, and love answering every question that aches in the heart of humanity, Doug Crew shares on these subjects and more with insight and grace. Doug is the executive leader of Shiloh Place Ministries and a good friend of the podcast.

MATTHEW HESTER / GOD WAS PLEASED TO REVEAL HIS SON IN ME

MATTHEW HESTER / GOD WAS PLEASED TO REVEAL HIS SON IN ME

Mystery, faith, salvation and awaking to Christ’s likeness within us, adoption and sonship, being in the family, discovering the Word in scripture, and living from union, we discuss this and more with Matthew Hester in a passionate conversation around the love of God. Matthew is an author, pastor of Dominion Church (Greer SC), and founder of Hester Ministries and Present Truth Academy.

Learning To Live From Above

Learning To Live From Above

So how am I to deal with the good versus evil paradigm of the world that I still live in? Do I call it out? Do I expose, judge, and accuse those with opposing views and opinions? How do I involve myself in the fray without becoming frayed?

HAROLD & LINDA EBERLE / THE NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION

HAROLD & LINDA EBERLE / THE NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION

Harold and Linda Eberle share about the catalytic love of God that is transforming our western understanding of the church. They speak on victorious mindsets, kingdom thinking, the myth of separation, reconciliation through the death of Jesus, and salvation through his life; plus old elephants! This is a power packed interview full of profound insight.

The Preacher

The Preacher

This preacher drowns with the disobedient outside the ark, with the chariot armies of the Egyptians, with the lost tribes of Israel, and with us. He does not want to be the only righteous human while the rest of us, his unrighteous brothers and sisters, go under. His baptism is our baptism.

DR. CAROLINE LEAF / CLEANING UP YOUR MENTAL MESS

DR. CAROLINE LEAF / CLEANING UP YOUR MENTAL MESS

Brilliant, compassionate, and empowering, world-renowned neuroscientist and best-selling author, Dr. Caroline Leaf, talks about her new book, Cleaning Up Your Mental Mess. She addresses what happens when we don’t use our minds properly. Why mind-management is the solution to cleaning up our mental mess and how the science can help us transition from being aware of toxic thoughts to catching and managing them. In other words, she teaches us how to renew our minds.

When Does The Bible Become An Idol?

When Does The Bible Become An Idol?

What happens when we search the Scriptures in search of eternal life? It’s not long before we start defining the words on the pages as “infallible” and “inerrant.” And in my experience, an inerrant approach to scripture is a slippery slope into idolatry.

Hell, and Freedom

Hell, and Freedom

Look, if a future punishment is the only thing keeping a person from hurting others, by all means, that person might need to keep believing in hell. But let’s not pretend that person is whole or free. And whatever we do, let’s not give that kind of thinking a pulpit in our lives.

DON KEATHLEY / THE GOSPEL

DON KEATHLEY / THE GOSPEL

Don Keathley touches on the goodness of our Father, Jesus as perfect theology, grace, our union, our identity, how to approach scripture, and the lie of eternal conscious torment.

ALLEN ARNOLD / CHAOS CAN’T

ALLEN ARNOLD / CHAOS CAN’T

God creates order from disorder and we have been invited to co-create with Him. In the midst of chaos, “we associate peace with answers. God associates peace with Union.”

Betrayal and Love

Betrayal and Love

“This is my body, broken for you! Boys and girls, you are not abandoned, I will not leave you orphaned…”

LLOYD CLARK / I AM ENOUGH

LLOYD CLARK / I AM ENOUGH

With humor and authenticity, Lloyd talks about the finished work of the Cross, how Jesus fixed the problem of separation, and our invitation to awaken to our union.

Donald Trump, Politics, and the Church

Donald Trump, Politics, and the Church

I have witnessed the church, my brothers and sisters on both sides of an American aisle that doesn’t exist in heaven, go to war with one another on behalf of their devotion ‘for or against’ a politician.

THOMAS JAY OORD / GOD CAN’T

THOMAS JAY OORD / GOD CAN’T

“Given that we start with God’s power…we end up giving God the kind of capabilities that make God culpable; in other words, morally responsible for not only causing but allowing bad things…I think there are good biblical reasons to object to that standard view of Gods power.” Thomas Jay Oord

The Hard Stuff in Scripture

The Hard Stuff in Scripture

Recently a friend sent a text suggesting that I do a podcast highlighting the ‘hard stuff’ in Scripture.
I responded back, “What hard stuff?”

Swords, Spears, Guns, and Lasers

Swords, Spears, Guns, and Lasers

Remember how they were joined by a host of raging superhero death angels shouting “Glory in the highest,” and “On earth, as it is in heaven!” while they committed acts of retributive justice that would make Quinton Tarantino blush.

Sovereign Love / six-part teaching series

Sovereign Love / six-part teaching series

While many of us believe the sovereignty of God has something to do with control, Jesus revealed the true definition of the sovereignty of God in the power and authority of sacrificial Love…

Conquering the “I am not” Lie

Conquering the “I am not” Lie

The incarnation is the basis for healthy thinking. Therefore, the idea that I am not the expression of His image and likeness can no longer attach itself to my thoughts.

Rose-Colored Glasses

Rose-Colored Glasses

The goodness of God has been offending the sensitivities of man’s understanding since the fall, mine included.

RANDALL WORLEY / Questioning My Answers

RANDALL WORLEY / Questioning My Answers

Randall Worley talks about having a “beginner’s mind,” faith while embracing mystery, pioneering and the nature of heresy, the limits of language, approaching scripture through love, and the importance of remaining curious while understanding that God is not insecure or defensive when we raise hard questions.

MICHAEL MCELYEA / You Love Me, But You Don’t Know Who I Am

MICHAEL MCELYEA / You Love Me, But You Don’t Know Who I Am

You love me, but you don’t know who I am. Those are the words God spoke to Michael several years ago and it took him on a journey into measureless love, grace, and union with an always good, never leaving, no distance or separation, Triune God. With grace and joy the conversation dove into the two greatest lies on the planet, Penal Substitution and Eternal Conscious Torment.

You Are the Coin

You Are the Coin

Coins bear an image. You carry the image and imprint and poetry and signature of the divine, who has engraved you on the palms of His hands.

KATIE SKURJA / Discovering Our Humanity

KATIE SKURJA / Discovering Our Humanity

In this podcast, Katie Skurga talks about discovering our humanity in the image of God, shame and behavior, grace and identity, paradox and spiritual and emotional maturity, freedom, and intrinsic authority.

ERIC JOHNSON / In The Image of God

ERIC JOHNSON / In The Image of God

Eric Johnson, the pastor of Bethel Church in Redding CA, shares generously, humbly, and with great insight on the goodness of God, navigating culture, Jesus and American politics, spiritual maturity, emotional health, and what it means to be alive.

MARK AND JULIE APPLEYARD / RETHINKING CHURCH

MARK AND JULIE APPLEYARD / RETHINKING CHURCH

From the traditional to a micro church model, Mark and Julie share their journey of pastoring.
Today, through Anothen Micro Church, they empower believers around the world to become influential spiritual leaders in their homes and communities.

Carrots and Lasers

Carrots and Lasers

While I think the prophetic has a noble and appropriate place, I think we are too easily led astray from the joy that is “today.”

In These Unprecedented Times… Is God In Control?

In These Unprecedented Times… Is God In Control?

Could it be that the lie of sovereign control is beginning to be exposed on such a grand scale that it has become harder to swallow? Is it possible this phrase is being so exposed in these unprecedented times that it is finally ringing hollow?

Leaving Jesus

Leaving Jesus

“The Jesus that reigns down pain and disappointment to teach you something about his love, the behavior obsessed Jesus who uses shame to manipulate you into doing what he wants, the abusive Jesus you have been describing to me for more than an hour, I think you should leave him.

MARK KARRIS/ RELIGIOUS REFUGEES

MARK KARRIS/ RELIGIOUS REFUGEES

With grace and insight, Mark speaks on the disorienting faith shift so many are currently experiencing regarding their thoughts about God, the church, and ourselves. We dive into Mark’s new book, Religious Refugees, and Mark encourages those who, because of a shift in their theology, have either felt a sense of not belonging in their home church or have even been rejected.

I Need a Waterfall

I Need a Waterfall

The outrage that changes and saves this world is the outrage of love. And so I lean into His love, a relational grace; the empowering evidence of my friendship with Jesus.


Jonah And An Angry God?

Jonah And An Angry God?

…With self-righteous arrogance, Jonah determines it’s the will of god that he die for his sin. Instead of repenting, Jonah, with his sanctimonious gospel, preaches himself overboard as a sacrifice to his angry god. And worse, he makes the sailors complicit in his death religion…

DANNY SILK / UNPUNISHABLE

DANNY SILK / UNPUNISHABLE

Parenting, leadership, freedom through self-control, spiritual maturity, emotional health, the nature of our Father, and heaven and hell, Danny’s thoughts and gracious communication are empowering and transformative. It was an honor to discuss the unpunishing nature of God with Danny!

A Prayer of Thanksgiving

A Prayer of Thanksgiving

Heavenly Father, you have been revamping and rebooting my systems for years, bringing me into greater awareness of this wonder-filled life you have offered and accomplished for me! Thank you!

BRIAN ZAHND / Jesus Is The Interpretation

BRIAN ZAHND / Jesus Is The Interpretation

The Bible cannot be the foundation we build upon, the foundation is Jesus. Brian Zahnd talks on how to approach scripture, American Nationalism, Trump’s Bible photo Op during the George Floyd protests, equality, and contemplative prayer in this brilliant and transformative Podcast.

This Will Be Our Finest Hour

This Will Be Our Finest Hour

Though it has felt just the opposite during this quarantine time, this has been one of the greatest times of personal growth and Kingdom advancement for the body of Christ.

There is No “Us” and “Them”

There is No “Us” and “Them”

Many long to go back to the early days of the church, viewing those first few years as the high-water mark of what a church is meant to be. They weren’t. Not even close!

JOHN MARK MCMILLAN / A WORSHIP RECORD FOR ATHEISTS

JOHN MARK MCMILLAN / A WORSHIP RECORD FOR ATHEISTS

“I am building bridges between my friends who are atheists, my friends who are fundamentalists, my friends who consider themselves progressive or any end of the spectrum. Because gratitude is the one place we all come together.” John Mark McMillan

My Beef with Religion

My Beef with Religion

Religion taught me about love, but religion seemed to get it wrong as much as it got it right. And at the end of the day, religion never loved me…

BILL VANDERBUSH / RECKLESS GRACE

BILL VANDERBUSH / RECKLESS GRACE

Bill Vanderbush is a writer and brilliant communicator. In this podcast, Bill gives incredible insight into what the new covenant looks like, our inclusion in the family through both being adopted and reborn, how to navigate fear, reckless grace, and how to navigate conflict online. 

But What About Church Discipline?

But What About Church Discipline?

If discipline isn’t about a father walking in humility, desiring the best for his child while mourning the fallen mindset, it will become punishment and there will be no life in it.

FRANCOIS DU TOIT / JESUS IS WHAT GOD BELIEVES ABOUT YOU

FRANCOIS DU TOIT / JESUS IS WHAT GOD BELIEVES ABOUT YOU

Francois is an author most known for his current work, The Mirror Bible. In this interview, Francois talks about our Father’s great affection, inclusion, grace, intimacy, ministry, and the unveiled revelation of love! He also shares some of his story and how he came to write The Mirror Bible.

But What About Sin?

But What About Sin?

Yes, sin is a big deal, and our job as Christians is to remove the condemnation that is associated with it, not add to it. We are invited to, like Christ, release kindness, and walk people into freedom. “There is, therefore, no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus…” (Rom 8:1) That’s us! And I would add, ‘therefore there should be no condemnation from those who are in Christ Jesus.’ We can’t give away what we don’t have…

You Think You’re Better Than God?

You Think You’re Better Than God?

I could feel the theological police in my mind springing into action to take this thought captive. God the Father… “indulgent?” That’s a bad word where I come from—a word we use to describe enablers and…

DEREK AND SARAH TURNER / JESUS IS PERFECT THEOLOGY

DEREK AND SARAH TURNER / JESUS IS PERFECT THEOLOGY

Derek and Sarah Turner, pastors of River Church Charlotte, share generously and candidly on the goodness of God, Jesus as perfect theology, reading scripture with a hermeneutic of Love, soul care, inclusion, rethinking our understanding of vengeance and wrath and the patient trusting journey into transformation.

Joy Unspeakable

Joy Unspeakable

Religion is an evil task master! A distortion of truth! A lie! But His love is truly joy unspeakable and full of glory, full of glory, full of glory! And the half has never yet been told!

MAKO NAGASAWA / A RESTORATIVE GOD

MAKO NAGASAWA / A RESTORATIVE GOD

Early Church Fathers, the formation of the New Testament, how to approach scripture, Starwars, Puff Daddy, The Police, and the vast difference between retributive justice and restorative justice. Mako Nagasawa’s insights and generous communication were insightful, hopeful and transformative.

We Are So Worth The Blood Of Jesus!

We Are So Worth The Blood Of Jesus!

As my friend, Dan Mohler says, “I am so worthy of the blood of Jesus.” He loves me! And it’s never ever had anything to do with my behavior or performance. I am enough! And so are you!

You Are A Spiritual Giant!

You Are A Spiritual Giant!

I absolutely love our gatherings, I’m a preacher who loves to preach. But I am leaning into this season as I believe God is raising our perspective to see as He sees. I believe God is changing our powerless small thinking and inviting the church to live powerfully in any room we might find ourselves in.
Even now, when fear is doggedly knocking at my door, I’m hopeful. Hope is my now and my future. And when it isn’t, I repent.

MIKE POPOVICH / PRAYER & QUANTUM PHYSICS

MIKE POPOVICH / PRAYER & QUANTUM PHYSICS

Mike is a brilliant communicator and pastors Freedom Ministries. In this podcast we talk about prayer and oneness with God and Mike teaches us quantum physics! Mike reveals how scripture and quantum physics are not in conflict with each other

What A Wonderful World

What A Wonderful World

For me, the End Times is now, “on earth as it is in heaven” is my mandate, growing sure in love is my strategy, and being kind and faithfully loving everyone around me is my implementation.

Even now, when fear is doggedly knocking at my door, I’m hopeful. Hope is my now and my future. And when it isn’t, I repent.

BRAD JERSAK / CHRISTOLOGY

BRAD JERSAK / CHRISTOLOGY

Brad discusses high Christology and gives insight into how our early church fathers thought about God and how they read and interpreted scripture. He also discussed what the wrath of God means in scripture.

Repent! The Kingdom of God is Within You

Repent! The Kingdom of God is Within You

Yes, repent! Change the way you think until “righteousness, peace, and joy” are your reality; until the confidence of “on earth as it is in heaven” is your perspective; until you sense the arms of your kind and loving Father enveloping you and you grow sure in His nature to work all things to our good.

7 Things to Do During a Time of Shaking and Disruption

7 Things to Do During a Time of Shaking and Disruption

…Reconnect with our Father by recalling that He is good, He is love and He is for us (Romans 8:31)! Remember that He has already promised to make all things work together for good (Romans 8:28) including the current circumstances you are facing…

Rethinking God

Rethinking God

Humanity had “God-boxes” and Jesus kept blowing them up. Humanity was convinced God was one way and Jesus kept contradicting those paradigms.

Heaven and Hell (Part 3)

Heaven and Hell (Part 3)

I am not waiting to get to heaven to learn about heaven. While heaven is infinitely better than I can ask, or imagine, I am getting a head start on asking and imagining it here and now. I am stewarding my faith in sovereign love and in so doing, I am destroying the works of the devil.

Heaven and Hell (Part 2)

Heaven and Hell (Part 2)

Everything is a matter of perspective. If we perceive light through unhealthy eyes we will see darkness. If we perceive truth through unhealthy eyes we will see lies. God is love and His love is sovereign, but if we see love through the lens of control we will experience striving and desperation.

Heaven and Hell (Part 1)

Heaven and Hell (Part 1)

For centuries now, much of the Western church has presented hell through the lens of sovereign control. And Atheism is its purest by-product.

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A Sling and A Song: Worship that Kills Giants

Everything in the Kingdom of God is birthed out of worship. All of our promises are engaged through worship. Our worship is an act of surrender, our will for His. But our worship doesn’t stop at surrender. When we surrender to God, He invites us into the untamed where we can demonstrate our worship

Revelation: It’s Always An Encounter

Truth can be read about and discussed but to own revelation requires some form of experience. “God loves you,” is simply a statement of fact. But the statement doesn’t hold any power until His love is engaged.

Sinbad, Seacrest, & Paper Cuts

Suddenly I felt the presence of God as if He were standing right next to me. Then He said to me, “I was there when that happened, I felt that.”

The Gas Attendant Job: And Nine Other Reasons Not To Go To Bible College

When I gave Jesus my life, He promised He would always be with me. Through the years this promise followed me like a lovely ghost. I encountered it in a song, in a book. I dreamed it. I watched it in a movie; I heard it from the pulpit. It was a gradual unwinding, a realization of who God is, that He lived in me and that He is good. He is always good.

I Am

He is “I Am,” which means, He is the God of right now. Yesterday He was God, and tomorrow He is God, and it’s good to know this, but today I really want to know Him as “I Am,” the God of right now.

Learning A New Language: Daddy, I See A Ociton

I can feel God speaking to me; I just can’t make it out. And I know He is with me. I know it like I know Oreo’s are better with milk or like I know BA really did like Murdock – he just pretended he didn’t. It’s just one of those things I know.

Everything He Has Is Ours: Discovering Our Father’s Love Changes Everything

I love the story of the prodigal son. I grew up loving it – it was a favorite.

A Sunday Morning Drive

The church gathers and sings beautiful love songs to God. They pray for each other and encourage and challenge each other to love greater and live bolder. Often someone speaks about the goodness of God. It’s a nice thing to do on a Sunday morning.

God Has Favorites & So Do I

While holding hands with my family, I told my wife she was “the one” I loved, that I loved her best, she was my favorite. Then I looked at my oldest daughter and I told her the same thing. I moved on to my son and finally my youngest daughter repeating myself as I went. You are “the one” that I love…

A Wide Open Love…

Ask, and you will receive. Search, and you will find. Knock, and the door will be opened for you. Everyone who asks will receive. Everyone who searches will find. And the door will be opened for everyone who knocks.

On Earth As It Is In Heaven: Buried Treasure

Since the age of five, I have been learning that Salvation is the most beautiful of life’s miracles. I once was dead, now I’m alive! I once was clothed in self-centered ignorance, I’m now clothed in love and righteousness.

From Sinner to Saint: Prone To Love…

Jesus never once was “prone to wander” or “prone to leave the God He loved.” He came to earth to settle that exact issue once and for all. He came to set us free that we too might see, encounter, and become love; that we might be transformed from prone to wander to prone to love Him!

Goodness & Love: Psalm 23

Psalm 23 is Davids revelation of an always good and loving Father

A Message From My Father

I love you when you mess up; I love you when you come running back. I love you when you reject my grace; I love you when you embrace my goodness. I always love you. Do you believe me?

The Oscillating God?

And when the valley of the shadow of death is upon us, that’s when we must know to our core that our Fathers nature doesn’t change. God isn’t fickle. He hasn’t gotten tired of us or changed His mind about us. He hasn’t turned His heart from us; He’s not judging us or condemning us. He is still the same always-good Love He has always been.

And Before the Coffee is Fully Brewed…

I used to try and love God, now I just let Him love me

Donald Millers, The Open Table: An Invitation to Walk with God

In early 2010, my brother Joel asked me if I would be interested in writing the guide book to the second offering of Donald Millers “The Open Table.” …

Karma

You and I as believers are no longer instruments of karma! Instead, you and I have become His Authorized Representatives to partner with Him in acts of LOVE, MERCY and GRACE in an orphaned and broken world.

Fathers and Sons / Culture of Honor

Danny’s book “Culture of Honor” did this. It revealed identity. Danny gave vernacular to my journey. More than that, his writing helped to settle the insecurity experienced on the journey. You see, Danny revealed my heavenly Father in a new way and the better you know your heavenly Father, the surer you are as His son.

Well Done, Tire

We are designed to live a life of risk and trust, to do valiant acts of faith, to live out our radical acts of surrender, to leave it “all out on the field,” all for the glory of our King, so that when we get to heaven we will experience in those 3 beautiful seconds, those 6 stunning words. We are all living for the, “Well done.”

Whats For Dinner?

I am a good father, I tell my kids all the time and they believe me. But as amazing a father as I am, I don’t hold a candle, or a firebrand, or any other source of light to my heavenly Father.  He’s the cat’s meow… yeah, I’m bringing it back.

He Loves Me Best / S&U Message

The title of my message was “He loves me best!” I hope to post it here in the coming days, but for a quick synopsis, check out this film that was shot last year to help promote my book Surrendered & Untamed.

My Interview On 100 Huntley Street

100 Huntley Street is Canada’s longest running daily talk show. They tell stories of people who have had life-changing encounters with God – whether they be world leaders, celebrities, sports figures or everyday people and late last year I got to go on the show.  

Papa Was A Minister

After Papa dies, he was a better man; full of grace and love. My Papa was a minister. He was a good man before he died.

Need / Love

Need is the final singular truth by which our world operates. Humanity exists within the confines of need. We trade in the currency of need. Need is the foundational structure of our DNA. It’s the defining core value of our very existence.

Our Inheritance & The Ice Cream Sundae

When it comes to God, I think it’s astounding how greatly our lives are determined by what we believe. If we believe our Father is love and His love is perfected in His goodness, then we will trust. We will live in the expectation of a fuller more powerful life

More Than Enough

I am looking back now on these past years and am amazed by His love for me. He likes me and wants nothing from me other than friendship.

My Grandma Was Prone To Love…

The cross is only beautiful because of the empty tomb. We celebrate His death because of His resurrection. I would like to suggest that the power of Love is perfected when sinners become saints. That was the whole point of Jesus death and resurrection – that we would encounter Love and become love.

I’m Not A Sinner

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“Prone to Wander”? Debilitating Theology in the Pew

The power of the song “Come Thou Fount” is the revelation that we can always know His Love

“Sometimes a story is written that changes everything. This book is an irresistible journey into transforming love. These are new and powerful thoughts from a modern-day reformer. Once they take hold they wont let go.”

Mark Batterson

Pastor of National Community & Bestselling Author of Circle Maker

Those struggling for identity will appreciate “Prone to Love” as a key to unlock and accept their true hidden self.  Enjoy!”

Rev Paul Johansson

Chancellor & Chairman of Elim Bible Institute and College

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