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Season 7 · Jan 20, 2026

Nathan Apffel The Religion Business

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In this conversation, Nathan Apffel shares his journey with Brooke Waters and Jason from being a filmmaker in the action sports industry to being a creator of a docuseries that explores the complexities of faith and the church. He discusses his personal experiences that shaped his understanding of God, the role of fatherhood in his spiritual awakening, and the importance of transparency and accountability within the church.

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Jason Clark is a relational theologian, storyteller, husband, and dad who believes the gospel is better than the last time we checked. He's the author of several books, the host of Rethinking God with Tacos, and lives in Cornelius, NC, with his wife, Karen, and their four kids.

  1. Steve Simms

    Nathan:

    I just heard about the religion business website and movie. I have been resisting religion for decades. How it abuses money, but even more how it quenches the Holy Spirit and keeps God’s people as babes in Christ. Check out my blog @ hopethoughts.com

    Also google my book: Beyond Church–An Invitation to Experience the Lost Word of the Bible–Ekklesia.

    Blessings,
    Steve

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  2. Dianne Berryhill

    Can we buy the dvd of the documentary

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  3. Harold Lewis

    I’ve been watching your Shawn Ryan Podcast. A couple of growing Semi-Mega Church’s of note.
    New Heights College Station Tx with Apostle Brian Hallum &
    First Pentecostal of Greater Houston ( formerly Porter Apostolic) with Pastor Joel McCoy
    Both church leaders are making themselves rich.

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  4. William H. Losch

    Hi Nathan! 06/21/2026

    You might want to checkout “The Clayville Assembly” in Foster, RI as it is run by a man in the roofing business, who also a trained Pastor. This is my church. FYI: saw your interview with Tucker Carlson, GREAT!

    https://clayvilleassembly.com/

    All the best,

    William H. Losch

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