Rethinking God
with TACOS
Rethinking God with Tacos
with Derek Turner and Jason Clark

Rethinking God with Tacos is two guys who really like tacos discovering that God is like Jesus; God is love and His love is better than our ability to understand, better than our greatest thoughts, better than our wildest imaginings, and even better than our best biblical interpretation; just two guys and some amazing guests rethinking. Join us.
Derek Turner Follower of Jesus, In love with @sarahjturner, Father to @caro.turn & @kaaatters, Owner of Milo, Pastor @rivercharlotte. Amazed by Grace
www.rivercharlotte.com
Jason Clark is a writer, speaker and lead communicator at A Family Story ministries. His mission is to encourage sons and daughters to grow sure in the love of an always-good heavenly Father. He and his wife, Karen, live in North Carolina with their three children.
Season Two
THOMAS JAY OORD / GOD CAN’T
“Given that we start with God’s power…we end up giving God the kind of capabilities that make God culpable; in other words, morally responsible for not only causing but allowing bad things…I think there are good biblical reasons to object to that standard view of Gods power.” Thomas Jay Oord
THE CROSS with DEREK TURNER & JASON CLARK
In this first episode of season two, Jason and new host Derek Turner dive into the wonder of what Jesus revealed about our Father and humanity through the cross and resurrection.
Season One
RANDALL WORLEY / Questioning My Answers
Randall Worley talks about having a “beginner’s mind,” faith while embracing mystery, pioneering and the nature of heresy, the limits of language, approaching scripture through love, and the importance of remaining curious while understanding that God is not insecure or defensive when we raise hard questions.
MICHAEL MCELYEA / You Love Me, But You Don’t Know Who I Am
You love me, but you don’t know who I am. Those are the words God spoke to Michael several years ago and it took him on a journey into measureless love, grace, and union with an always good, never leaving, no distance or separation, Triune God. With grace and joy the conversation dove into the two greatest lies on the planet, Penal Substitution and Eternal Conscious Torment.
KATIE SKURJA / Discovering Our Humanity
In this podcast, Katie Skurga talks about discovering our humanity in the image of God, shame and behavior, grace and identity, paradox and spiritual and emotional maturity, freedom, and intrinsic authority.
ERIC JOHNSON / In The Image of God
Eric Johnson, the pastor of Bethel Church in Redding CA, shares generously, humbly, and with great insight on the goodness of God, navigating culture, Jesus and American politics, spiritual maturity, emotional health, and what it means to be alive.
AMY SIMMONS & KRISPIN MAYFIELD / Attachment Theory and a Healthy Spirituality
The parent-child relationship and our formative years greatly influence how we navigate everything, including our spirituality and faith. Often our theological deconstructions are the fruit of discovering a God with whom we feel loved, secure, and safe; where we move from insecure to secure attachment.
MARK AND JULIE APPLEYARD / RETHINKING CHURCH
From the traditional to a micro church model, Mark and Julie share their journey of pastoring.
Today, through Anothen Micro Church, they empower believers around the world to become influential spiritual leaders in their homes and communities.
RELATIONSHIP IS WAY BETTER THAN RULES
This is a laughter-filled conversation about a kind God and a transformative faith…
KENNETH TANNER / A BODY OF WHICH I AM A MEMEBER
Approaching scripture, prayer, and our participation in the divine life, Father Kenneth Tanner explores a faith that beautiful in its simplicity; God really loves humanity.
STEVE MCVEY/ BEYOND AN ANGRY GOD
Scandalous multifaced fathomless grace, restorative justice, redeemed identity, our union with Abba Father and intimacy with our Triune God barely scratches the surface of this 40-minute power-packed interview with Dr. Steve McVey.
MARK KARRIS/ RELIGIOUS REFUGEES
With grace and insight, Mark speaks on the disorienting faith shift so many are currently experiencing regarding their thoughts about God, the church, and ourselves. We dive into Mark’s new book, Religious Refugees, and Mark encourages those who, because of a shift in their theology, have either felt a sense of not belonging in their home church or have even been rejected.
JOHN MACMURRAY/ IF YOU LOOK AT IT AS A RELATIONSHIP…
“…Jesus defines eternal life as a relationship. My entire education had defined eternal life as believing the right ideology… All I knew was, God was better than I thought he was and there was no way I’m going back…”
QUESTIONS AND RESPONSES / Faith, Prayer and Leaving a Punitive God
In this episode, Thomas and Jason discussed their faith journeys while responding to questions regarding Judas and hell, how to navigate push back from those who think differently, how to pray without ceasing and without desperation, and finally, what core thoughts about God have changed in the last ten years.
DANNY SILK / UNPUNISHABLE
Parenting, leadership, freedom through self-control, spiritual maturity, emotional health, the nature of our Father, and heaven and hell, Danny’s thoughts and gracious communication are empowering and transformative. It was an honor to discuss the unpunishing nature of God with Danny!
BRENT LOKKER / Experiencing God’s Affection
Brent Lokker talks about a personal God, a Father who wants a relationship with us, our identity, how to approach scripture to encounter God, how to discover freedom from sin, brain science, and early childhood development. This podcast is an invitation into wholeness.
BRIAN ZAHND / Jesus Is The Interpretation
The Bible cannot be the foundation we build upon, the foundation is Jesus. Brian Zahnd talks on how to approach scripture, American Nationalism, Trump’s Bible photo Op during the George Floyd protests, equality, and contemplative prayer in this brilliant and transformative Podcast.
C. BAXTER KRUGER / JESUS MEETS US INSIDE OUR DELUSION
“Jesus has pitched His tent in our flesh… If I didn’t believe that Jesus, Father and Holy Spirit is inside every person on the whole earth, I would not open my mouth… But we are bearing witness to something that is real.”
JOHN MARK MCMILLAN / A WORSHIP RECORD FOR ATHEISTS
“I am building bridges between my friends who are atheists, my friends who are fundamentalists, my friends who consider themselves progressive or any end of the spectrum. Because gratitude is the one place we all come together.” John Mark McMillan
CHRIS GREEN / THE TEXT KNOWS WHAT IT’S DOING
Hermeneutics, pain and suffering, the sovereignty of God, brain science, Terrence Malick films, and tacos. Chris Green hits all the beats in this deep and thought-provoking podcast.
BILL VANDERBUSH / RECKLESS GRACE
Bill Vanderbush is a writer and brilliant communicator. This podcast Bill gives incredible insight into what the new covenant looks like, our inclusion in the family through both being adopted and reborn, how to navigate fear, reckless grace, and how to navigate conflict online.
FRANCOIS DU TOIT / JESUS IS WHAT GOD BELIEVES ABOUT YOU
Francois is an author most known for his current work, The Mirror Bible. In this interview, Francois talks about our Father’s great affection, inclusion, grace, intimacy, ministry, and the unveiled revelation of love! He also shares some of his story and how he came to write The Mirror Bible.
DEREK AND SARAH TURNER / JESUS IS PERFECT THEOLOGY
Derek and Sarah Turner, pastors of River Church Charlotte, share generously and candidly on the goodness of God, Jesus as perfect theology, reading scripture with a hermeneutic of Love, soul care, inclusion, rethinking our understanding of vengeance and wrath and the patient trusting journey into transformation.
FEAR, COVID-19 AND THE ENNEAGRAM / WITH KAREN CLARK
We had Karen Clark on and talked about how to navigate fear in the midst of Covid19. We discussed the three triads of the Enneagram and how knowing our Enneagram number can help us healthily navigate fear.
MAKO NAGASAWA / A RESTORATIVE GOD
Early Church Fathers, the formation of the New Testament, how to approach scripture, Starwars, Puff Daddy, The Police, and the vast difference between retributive justice and restorative justice. Mako Nagasawa’s insights and generous communication were insightful, hopeful and transformative.
MIKE POPOVICH / PRAYER & QUANTUM PHYSICS
Mike is a brilliant communicator and pastors Freedom Ministries. In this podcast we talk about prayer and oneness with God and Mike teaches us quantum physics! Mike reveals how scripture and quantum physics are not in conflict with each other
BRAD JERSAK / CHRISTOLOGY
Brad discusses high Christology and gives insight into how our early church fathers thought about God and how they read and interpreted scripture. He also discussed what the wrath of God means in scripture.
WM. PAUL YOUNG (part two) / JESUS IS WHAT GOD IS LIKE
In part 2, Paul dove into scripture and how to read it for an encounter. He highlighted that Jesus is what God is like. He also discussed how God gives us grace for today and how to live in this moment.
WM. PAUL YOUNG (part one) / TRUST IS MY THROUGHLINE
In part 1, Paul tells a story about the making of the Shack, his friendship with Brad Jersak and how God used their first meeting, and the filming of the shack to heal a couple who had experienced great loss. Paul also dives into the goodness of God and trust.
SOVEREIGN LOVE
What if control is a flawed word to describe God’s sovereignty? What if there is an infinitely better word, a greater revelation, love!
Jason and Thomas discuss the sovereignty of God and focus on Jason’s book, God Is Not In Control. God’s love is what defines His sovereignty. And God’s love is revealed through the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus.