MICOLE & BETHANY WALLACE / WHEN CHURCH HURT MEETS RADICAL HOPE
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What happens when church hurt, stage IV cancer, and deep theological reconstruction collide with an unshakable conviction that God is better than we’ve been told? In this deeply vulnerable conversation, Micole and Bethany Wallace share their remarkable journey—from serving fourteen years as worship pastors, to losing the ministry they thought would be home forever, to discovering Restoration City, walking through reconciliation with former friends, and facing Bethany’s stage IV breast cancer diagnosis.
Together they explore union with Christ, emotional healing, the impact of trauma on the body, the restoration of relationships, and the radical trust that grows when we stop pleading with God and begin to rest in His unwavering goodness. It’s a conversation about worship, healing, forgiveness, hope, and the long game of love that reminds us reconciliation is not just possible—it’s at the very heart of the gospel.
For more info
Restoration City Church – https://www.restorationcity.tv/
Micole and Bethany lead worship for our Rethinking God with Tacos Reunion. Join us this Sept (24-26) in Charlotte.
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/rethinking-god-with-tacos-reunion-2026-tickets-1986548921300?aff=oddtdtcreator
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Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde Assembly
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In this deeply honest and hope-filled conversation, Jason sits down with James E. Alderman and Larry Hudson to unpack “the gospel they grew up on” and the journey of waking up to a God who has never turned away. Together they explore fear-based religion, the Romans Road, transactional Christianity, healing, union, identity, and the radical discovery that God is better than we imagined.
Through stories of pastoring, deconstruction, friendship, prayer, suffering, healing, and grace, this episode becomes an invitation to stop striving for God’s affection and finally learn how to live loved. If you’ve ever wrestled with shame, separation, church hurt, or trying to earn what was already yours in Christ, this conversation will feel like fresh air for your soul.
For more info on James and Larry, go to:
https://www.youtube.com/@LettinTheLooseEndDrag/videos
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In this conversation, Matt Pandel discusses his journey as a psychologist and author of ‘Fractured Witness.’ He shares insights on church hurt, the importance of community, and the need for vulnerability in healing. The discussion explores the difference between systems and individual responsibility within the church, emphasizing that trust is earned and should not be conflated with honor. Pandel addresses the complexities of abuse within church systems and advocates for safe spaces for healing, ultimately highlighting the significance of understanding the nature of God and the church’s role in fostering a supportive community.
This conversation also explores the intersection of technology and community, the complexities of fear and vulnerability, and the role of emotions in faith. They discuss the challenges of certainty in belief systems and emphasize love as a foundational element for unity within the church. The dialogue highlights the need for new approaches in church dynamics, focusing on understanding and connection rather than division.
For more on Dr. Matt Pandel
Facebook: www.facebook.com/matthew.pandel
Website: www.unconditionalgrace.org
Consulting: www.noexceptionsministries.org
Global Grace Seminary: www.globalgraceseminary.net
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