JIM LOVEJOY / FIRE PITS, FAMILY & THE FUTURE OF CHURCH
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In this conversation, Jason and his son, Ethan, sit down with Jim Lovejoy for an honest, deeply personal discussion about leaving behind performance-based Christianity and discovering the freedom of beloved identity. Jimmy shares his remarkable journey from Marine, coach, and revival-driven evangelist to a father, mentor, and voice calling people into rest, family, and the love of God. The guys explore the difference between striving and learning, revival and reformation, church as an event versus church as family, and why the future of the Kingdom may look more like fire pits, shared meals, and authentic relationships than polished stages. If you’ve ever wondered whether God’s love is bigger than your performance, this conversation offers hope, healing, and a fresh vision of what it means to follow Jesus.
For more info on Jim:
https://www.thenorthgateoh.com/
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Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde Assembly
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In this deeply honest and hope-filled conversation, Jason sits down with James E. Alderman and Larry Hudson to unpack “the gospel they grew up on” and the journey of waking up to a God who has never turned away. Together they explore fear-based religion, the Romans Road, transactional Christianity, healing, union, identity, and the radical discovery that God is better than we imagined.
Through stories of pastoring, deconstruction, friendship, prayer, suffering, healing, and grace, this episode becomes an invitation to stop striving for God’s affection and finally learn how to live loved. If you’ve ever wrestled with shame, separation, church hurt, or trying to earn what was already yours in Christ, this conversation will feel like fresh air for your soul.
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TREVOR MEIER / DISCOVERING A MORE BEAUTIFUL GOSPEL
In this shared podcast conversation, Trevor Meier (Naturally Supernatural) and Jason explore their spiritual journeys, focusing on sonship, the nature of God’s love, and the importance of community in faith. They discuss their experiences in ministry, the impact of revival movements, and the shift from a transactional view of God to an unconditional love view. The conversation highlights the process of detoxifying from fear-based theology and embracing a life of union with God, ultimately awakening to the measureless love that defines their faith. The guys also explore the transformative journey of understanding the gospel, emphasizing themes of inclusion, identity, and living from love. They discuss the shift from a sin-focused mindset to one of acceptance and freedom, highlighting the importance of community. The dialogue also addresses the significance of friendship with God and the joy of sharing these revelations with others, while incorporating the light-hearted theme of tacos as a metaphor for connection and community.
For more info on Trevor:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@naturallysupernatural777/videos
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/trevor.meier.16
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CHRIS BLACKEBY / DISCOVERING YOUR IDENTITY IN CHRIST!
In this conversation, Chris Blackeby shares his journey through burnout, healing, and a profound shift in understanding God’s nature. He discusses the importance of living from a place of union with God and the transformative power of faith and trust in God’s provision. Chris also shares his transformative journey from experiencing deep pain and abandonment to discovering God’s unwavering love and provision. He recounts miraculous encounters during his travels, emphasizing the importance of living from love. The discussion explores themes of identity, sonship, and the nature of faith, highlighting the shift from servanthood to friendship with God. Chris emphasizes that understanding God’s character is crucial for a fulfilling relationship with Him, and he encourages listeners to embrace their identity as beloved children of God.
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https://www.asheisministries.org/
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CARLOS PADILLA / REDISCOVERING THE FORGOTTEN MAN: THE ELECTION WITHOUT SCAPEGOATS
In this conversation, Carlos and Jason explore the themes of God’s love, human dignity, and the impact of violence on perception. Carlos emphasizes that in the economy of God’s love, everyone is worthy of dignity and life, and that seeing people through a divine lens is crucial to recognizing their humanity. The discussion highlights the dangers of dehumanization and the importance of the gospel in understanding and treating others as fully human.
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http://Carlosmpadilla.com
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KRUGER, THOMPSON, ENGLEHART & MILLER / THE UNDILUTED GOSPEL
The Undiluted Gospel, hosted by Dubb Alexander & Jason Clark
This conversation took place at the 2025 RGWT Reunion with Baxter Kruger, Damon Thompson, Jamie Englehart, and Tommy Miller. It was hosted by Dubb Alexander and Jason Clark and explored the transformative power of the undiluted gospel and the role of the Holy Spirit in believers’ lives, emphasizing the profound impact of proclaiming faith in Jesus.
For more information on:
C. Baxter Kruger: https://perichoresis.org/
Damon Thompson: https://www.damonthompson.com/
Jamie Englehart: https://connectinternationalministries.com/
Tommy Miller: https://www.ncfc.church/
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RABBI BRIAN ZACHARY MAYER / HIGHLY UNORTHODOX GOSPEL
In this engaging conversation, Rabbi Brian Zachary Mayer shares his journey from organized religion to a more inclusive understanding of spirituality, emphasizing love, kindness, and the importance of asking questions. He discusses the concept of original sin, the role of shame, and the transformative power of love in relationships. The dialogue also touches on the significance of humor and community in spiritual growth, as well as the journey of deconstruction and rebuilding one’s faith. Rabbi Brian’s insights encourage listeners to embrace their beloved identity and to approach life with compassion and kindness.
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Reveal / Defend
Years ago, I was on staff at a church where the worship leader and I had radical differences about theology. One week, I preached a message declaring that everyone in the room was a spiritual giant. I was speaking to our identity, our original innocence, and the invitation to participate in the finished work of the Cross.
The following week, the worship pastor stood with an actual whip in his hand and preached the opposite. He declared we are prone to wander and that God looks away. “There are no spiritual giants in this room,” he said. It was heartbreaking. His theology, to me, was wrong, toxic, and deeply flawed.
I stood in the back of the room for the third and final service. “Father, what am I doing here?” I asked. And then He reminded me who He is and who I am. LOVE. Measureless, other-centered, self-giving, transforming LOVE.
“You’re here to be LOVE—to be a walking revelation of My affection.” He said. “You’re here to reveal, not defend.” He reminded me that Love keeps no record of wrong and thus has no right to be offended.
Then my Father highlighted a fella who stood in the back row, arms stretched wide, tears streaming down his face. “That man is having an encounter with my love.” My Father said.
For a split second, I was annoyed. “But the message is wrong, toxic, it’s deeply flawed!” I thought. Then just as quick, my heart shifted as I heard my Father whisper, “Yes, Jason, the
message is wrong, toxic, it’s deeply flawed. But one encounter with My love is more powerful than anything else. My love is transformative, sustaining. My love is the long game. And I’ve never limited myself to your poor theology.”
That moment defined my ministry. God meets us where we are, in the middle of our flawed theology. He speaks in the language of our understanding.
I realized that man was unlikely ready to hear the good news as I had discovered it; he was lost in the knowledge of good and evil, a prodigal who only understood slaving, the context of transaction. It’s heartbreaking, but the whip message was the language of his understanding.
Was his understanding deeply flawed? Yes. But that’s the road he was traveling, and thus that’s the road our Father met him on. Our Father chased Him down and embraced Him, knowing that embrace would ultimately, over time, and hopefully in this life, reveal the Gospel. The good news that would set him truly and fully free. There is no shadow of turning with Thee, and thus there is no earning, no whip. Love is unconditional.
The point? Our Father did not limit His kind affection to the flawed words coming from the man on stage. No, our Father ran to meet his son, who only wanted to know he was loved! Our Father knew that over time, His measureless love would transform any part of the son’s wrong, toxic, and deeply flawed theology.
I’ve given my life to rethinking my theology. It matters. The closer we are to knowing Greater Love — the more our God lens is like Jesus — the more we experience eternal life. But it’s a journey.
My journey into this union grace has been 51 hard-fought, intentional years where my Father continues to faithfully meet me in my wrong, toxic, and deeply flawed theology.
And this is why I’m encouraged today. You see, I’m not alone. And while it’s taken me 51 years of growing conviction in this Greater love gospel, these days, I meet people who are just as confident at half my age. And then there are the fathers and mothers who are mature in their union – LOVE.
Union, grace, it’s in the ether. We have books, and language, ministries, people, the church, deep and wide, maturing in love.
Right now, there is a spiritual hunger in our world, while at the same time, there is an awakening within the church. Yes, there are distorted versions of Jesus being presented and leveraged, but there’s also a groundswell of sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, friends who are convinced in His affection.
Yesterday, I recognized that man from the church years ago in the upraised arms of hundreds of thousands as we celebrated Charlie Kirk’s life and mourned his death. And I heard my Father whisper. “Yes, Jason, some of the message is wrong, toxic, it’s deeply flawed. But one encounter with My love is more powerful than anything else. My love is transformative, sustaining. My love is the long game.”
I watched yesterday in the liberty of a gospel that doesn’t require agreement or the “right” theology. A gospel that isn’t limited to our finite fears but is a measureless love that casts out fear. A Love that meets us where we are and, thank God, doesn’t leave us there but journeys with us. A love that transforms.
Many are worried about how Charlie’s passing has been politicized. Some are concerned about the left, others about the right. We live in a dualistic world, where the knowledge of good and evil always creates a vortex that pulls people in. It is a tired and powerless waste of time. There is no eternal life to be found in it.
But here’s a word of encouragement: we’re not here to defend, but to reveal. May we grow ever sure in His love.
My heart goes out to Charlie’s wife and kids, his family. Praying grace, grace, grace.
C. BAXTER KRUGER & DAMON THOMPSON / PARTICIPATION IS OPTIONAL — BUT YOU’RE ALREADY IN THE DANCE
Participation Is Optional—But You’re Already in the Dance
This live 2025 Rethinking God with Tacos Family Reunion conversation with Baxter Kruger and Damon Thompson explores the profound themes of divine love, the nature of the gospel, and the importance of intimacy with God. Hosted by Derek Turner and Jason, the guys discuss the concept of beloved identity, the significance of faith, and the transformative power of understanding one’s union with God. Through personal anecdotes and theological insights, they emphasize the need for a deeper awareness of God’s love and the invitation to live in that reality.
For more on Baxter Kruger
Website: https://perichoresis.org/
For more on Damon Thompson
Website: https://www.damonthompson.com/
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MATTHEW HESTER & JAMIE ENGLEHART / HOLY GROUND EVERYWHERE
In this engaging conversation, Jamie Englehart, Matthew Hester and Jason explore the themes of ministry, vulnerability, and the sacred-secular divide. They discuss the importance of recognizing God in all aspects of life, the call to full-time kingdom ministry, and the shift from traditional church structures to a more inclusive understanding of community and leadership. The conversation emphasizes the need for authenticity, healing, and sincerity in ministry, encouraging leaders to embrace their vulnerabilities and foster genuine connections with others.
The guys also explore the themes of vulnerability, authenticity, and love within ministry. They discuss the role of armor bearers, the importance of community support, and the need for grace in leadership. The conversation delves into the nature of God’s love and the journey towards maturity in one’s relationship with Him. They emphasize the significance of being real and honest in ministry, as well as the transformative power of love.
For more information on Matthew Hester
https://www.hesterministries.org/
For more information on Bishop Jamie Englehart
https://connectinternationalministries.com/leadership/
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