PETER HELMS / KINDNESS IS GOD’S NATIVE TONGUE
This conversation is a warm, funny, deeply human tour through Peter Helms’ story—and the theology that leaks out of it like “liquid love.” Peter opens up about life in Germany: a wildly inclusive open-home rhythm where atheists, grandkids, and a “youth group” of 70+ year-olds all belong at the same table. Peter frames the gospel as an awakening to what’s already true: God is not “over there,” but in us, with us, and mysteriously everywhere—drawing bigger circles than we ever could. The throughline is union and kindness: love wins, fear shrinks, stage-platform hierarchies fall away, and the “good news” becomes less about convincing people and more about hosting them—through presence, story, food, laughter, tears, and the simple, stubborn refusal to leave anyone outside the circle.
For more info on Peter:
https://www.helmsconnect.com/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
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CHERITH FEE NORDLING / FINDING OUR HOME IN JESUS
Encountering Jesus in the Gospels, studying Scripture in community, embracing a relational theology centered on the love and grace of God, Gnosticism, confession, repentance and restorative justice, Jesus, the temple and a whip, the prophetic act of Jesus, the wisdom of Love, the concept of inclusion, the importance of embracing diversity, and the meal where everybody’s “in;” in this conversation, Cherith shares personal transformative stories of faith and trust and hope, and invites us to find our home in Jesus.
For more on Cherith Fee Nordling
Website: www.opentableconference.com/matthew-class
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DANIEL GROTHE / THE POWER OF PLACE
Daniel Grothe and the guys discuss his new book, The Power of Place, which speaks the sense of loneliness that many feel in today’s age of hypermobility and noncommittal wandering, reminding us of the ancient vow of stability and teaching us how we can lead a richer life of friendship, community, and purpose.
They also touched on the deconstruction movement within the church, how authoritarian leadership has wounded and undermined trust, and how healing and connection are available only where we practice the long game of family.
QUOTES
“We live in a world that is enamored with financial capital…What most people don’t think about is the thick layering of social capital.”
“If we have deep pockets but we don’t have social capital, we are poor.”
“As long as you’re protecting the machine, you’re missing the lonely who are out there…”
“The very worst wounds that happen to us are through the perverse laying on of hands.” I will go at your pace to earn your trust. If it takes ten years to lay hands and speak life, I got all the time in the world…”
“Can we make a conversational space; can we make the church of Jesus not (about) a platform to spout our certainties and tow the party line with our little tight theologies and recover the psalms of lament”
For More Information on Daniel Grothe:
www.danielgrothe.com
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