JAMES E. ALDERMAN & LARRY HUDSON / THE “GOSPEL” I GREW UP ON
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In this deeply honest and hope-filled conversation, Jason sits down with James E. Alderman and Larry Hudson to unpack “the gospel they grew up on” and the journey of waking up to a God who has never turned away. Together they explore fear-based religion, the Romans Road, transactional Christianity, healing, union, identity, and the radical discovery that God is better than we imagined.
Through stories of pastoring, deconstruction, friendship, prayer, suffering, healing, and grace, this episode becomes an invitation to stop striving for God’s affection and finally learn how to live loved. If you’ve ever wrestled with shame, separation, church hurt, or trying to earn what was already yours in Christ, this conversation will feel like fresh air for your soul.
For more info on James and Larry, go to:
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