JAMES E. ALDERMAN & LARRY HUDSON / THE “GOSPEL” I GREW UP ON

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In this deeply honest and hope-filled conversation, Jason sits down with James E. Alderman and Larry Hudson to unpack “the gospel they grew up on” and the journey of waking up to a God who has never turned away. Together they explore fear-based religion, the Romans Road, transactional Christianity, healing, union, identity, and the radical discovery that God is better than we imagined.

Through stories of pastoring, deconstruction, friendship, prayer, suffering, healing, and grace, this episode becomes an invitation to stop striving for God’s affection and finally learn how to live loved. If you’ve ever wrestled with shame, separation, church hurt, or trying to earn what was already yours in Christ, this conversation will feel like fresh air for your soul.

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MALCOLM SMITH / HOLY SPIRIT, THE GENIUS TEACHER

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In this heartfelt conversation, Malcolm Smith and Jason explore the beauty and friendship of the Holy Spirit. From stories of Malcolm’s teenage encounter with what he calls “liquid love,” to reflections on prayer, revelation, and union with the Trinity, this episode is full of wisdom, intimacy, and joy.

Malcolm shares how the Spirit has been his lifelong teacher and best friend—not a distant doctrine, but a living presence guiding him into all truth. Together, they challenge the separation mindset of much of modern Christianity, and instead emphasize wholeness, intimacy, and our mattering deeply to God. The conversation concludes with Malcolm praying Paul’s Ephesians 1 prayer—that the eyes of our hearts would be opened to see the hope, identity, and resurrection power alive in us.

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PETER HIETT / THE SEVENTH DAY & WAKING UP TO UNION

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In this engaging conversation, Peter Hiett shares on Genesis, and emphasizes the centrality of God’s love in our identity and redemption. The guys explore the interconnectedness of creation, salvation, and the nature of God. They discuss how traditional narratives often start with human failure rather than God’s success, emphasizing the importance of understanding disobedience as a space for God’s mercy.

The conversation delves into the nature of time and eternity, the power of prayer, and the symbolism of the temple as a representation of love and sacrifice. Ultimately, they highlight the relationship between humanity and God, emphasizing that eternal life is about awakening to the goodness of existence and recognizing that what we take from God has always been given to us. Peter and Jason also discuss the significance of the cross, the nature of faith as a divine gift, and the evolving state of the church in contemporary society. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of authentic worship and the communal experience of faith.

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TOMMY MILLER / UNTETHERED FROM TIME

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In this engaging podcast episode, Jason Clark and Paul Golf host Tommy Miller as they delve into profound themes of faith and union and explore the significance of adoption in Hebrew culture and the transformative power of understanding one’s identity in Christ.

In this conversation, Tommy shares the implications of timelessness in relation to prayer, healing, and salvation. They discuss the significance of John 1 as a response to Genesis 1, the nature of existence and universalism, and the material world’s redemption.

The dialogue emphasizes the importance of understanding salvation in the present rather than as a future destination, highlighting the transformative power of love and union with God. The fellas explore profound themes of immortality, salvation, and the nature of union in Christ.

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ETHAN WILDE CLARK / CONNECTION COMMUNITY & AUTHENTICITY

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In this fun and engaging conversation, Jason and his son Ethan explore the complexities of faith, family, and the next generation’s relationship with the church. They discuss personal encounters with God, the importance of authenticity, and the challenges faced by youth today.

The conversation also touches on parenting philosophies, church trauma, and the transformative power of love and identity in Christ. Through their candid exchange, they highlight the significance of fostering genuine connections and understanding in a rapidly changing world.

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FRANCOIS & LYDIA DU TOIT / AWAKENING TO THE I AM-NESS OF GOD

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“We’ve preached man in Adam; we need to preach man in Christ.”

In this conversation, Francois and Lydia du Toit discuss with Jason the power of the gospel and the revelation of our identity in Christ. Francois speaks to our oneness with God and explores the idea that faith is not something we do, but something that happens to us when we grasp the truth that we are in Christ and experience the fellowship that comes from this realization. They also highlight the joy and confidence that comes from living in this reality and the impact it can have on our daily lives.

Francois and Lydia share the beauty of living in the present moment and highlight the significance of living from innocence and the freedom it brings. They share about encountering the love of God in all our relationships. The conversation concludes with a prayer for blessings and fruitfulness in sharing the message of who we are in Christ.

“We’ve preached man in Adam; we need to preach man in Christ – you cannot preach man in Christ before you see him there. To see him there, you have to have your understanding unveiled. Only faith can do that; only faith can see what the flesh cannot see. Because faith is to your spirit what your senses are to your body.”

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FR. KENNETH TANNER & DR. CHRIS GREEN / READING SCRIPTURE IN COMMUNITY

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In this conversation, Fr Kenneth Tanner, Chris Green, and Jason discuss the importance of reading scripture in community and approaching it with a Christocentric lens. They emphasize the need to move away from transactional and isolated approaches to scripture and instead engage in relational and communal exploration of who God is.

The conversation touches on the harm caused by misinterpretations of scripture and the importance of humility and healing in our reading and understanding of the Bible. The conversation explores the themes of power, prophecy, love, and complexity. It delves into the stories of Amos, Paul, and John the Baptist, highlighting the silencing and persecution of prophets.

The guys discuss the distinction between the shallow heart which can be deceived, and the deep heart, which is oriented towards the truth, emphasizing the need to see beyond appearances and trust in the unseen. They also address the challenges of navigating the current cultural and political climate, urging humility, openness, and a focus on personal relationships. The conversation concludes with a reminder to prioritize scripture, prayer, and serving others.

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A Trinitarian Salesman

The pitch…

This bliss!

This Trinitarian dance!

This entwinement with love!

This holy union and oneness!

No longer orphaned or abandoned, but abiding in this garden of intimacy and rest… every promise fulfilled!

Whole, well, and at peace with springs of living water bubbling up from within! Limitless and abounding!

My very own special unique place of bliss…

I am a salesman. That’s how I made my living. And when I am sold, it’s generally easy to convince somebody to trust what I believe to be true. It’s easy to sell somebody something I know they need, want, and can’t afford to live without; especially when I have the confidence that it delivers.

I know how sales work; it’s generally a heart connection built around trust.

And I’m an easy mark for somebody who is contagious in what they believe to be true about the product they are representing.

As a young salesman, I bought into my share of scams, but with age and experience, I became a cynic. Trust is a steeper climb at my age. I can usually read a scam intuitively. I now generally distrust salesmen. And I generally distrust preachers. I’ve experienced my share of shysters.

Try selling something to a culture steeped in distrust. A few years back, I lived in the cultural melting pot of DC for a year or so, and I knew instinctively, when I walked into their space and was face to face, the amount of distrust and skepticism I would be faced with in order to walk away with an order in my hand. But I was quite comfortable with my product, capable of reading the room, and I also had enough experience to know where the starting price needed to be in order for it to be a win, win.

Life is Tricky and complicated. And selling somebody who knows me from the inside out, like my wife, or my family, shouldn’t be, but can still be a tall order. Sometimes I want to scoop up everybody I know and transport them into this blissful union. But I have learned that this union isn’t something I have the ability to sell. It is such a precious place that is unique to every person in my sphere of influence. But everyone, including my family, needs room to come into their own unique place of intimacy with the Abba of Jesus. I can’t coerce, push, manipulate, or force anyone to drink. As a father, I am learning that I have to take my hands off. That’s what a good father does. His job is not as a salesman but as a cheerleader.

Having discovered this place of bliss, I want to take everyone I know with me.

But that is a false premise. My story is mine alone, and my unique place of wonder and transformation wasn’t designed for you. You wouldn’t be happy in my abiding place…

There’s a big difference between heartburn and a burning heart. On the road to Emmaus, those two fellas used the phrase, “Did not our hearts burn within us.”

Being sold a religious bill of goods will give you heartburn. Because your heart knows what only your heart can know, and instinctively, we all can read a scam.

When Jesus said, I am going to prepare a place for you, so that where I am there, you may be also. He wasn’t talking about a corporate y’all. This was an individually peculiar place designed, especially for you, a place with your name and identity on it. Not a Church, a mansion, or a place somewhere in the future. He prepared a peculiar place next to his heart. And when you enter that place next to his heart, that’s when you feel the sensation of a burning heart.

It’s a place only you can enter. No other person on the planet can go there except you. It’s a unique and special place where you alone experience the bliss, of knowing, as you have always been known, the place of a burning heart. And the place from which you can be, as you have always been. From his perspective, of course! And it’s a safe place. The only place on this planet uniquely your own. You can’t buy it. It’s not something you can be sold. But it’s real, authentic, and full of glory!

Have I sold you yet?

Love you, Lloyd

Every Breath I Breathe

A Prayer For The New Year

Oh, Poppa, it’s a beautiful day!

You’re comfortable in my skin, and I am comfortable being Your skin…Christ in me!

You are here, in me and around me, filling every atom and cell, absorbing every bit of darkness, every lie, every distortion. Every breath I breathe,

Yahweh.

Whispering praise,

completely at rest,

expectancy rising.

Thank You, Father, that I get to live in You today!

This is our day.

Light up our world today.

Every city, every county, and every state throughout this nation. Peace be still!

Light up this world with Your truth and Your love.

You’ve got this, and I can rest right here, right now!

A Prayer

My crafted morning prayer goes something like this.

With one hand on my head and the other over my heart.

“Oh, Father, thank you, thank You, thank You, that I get to live in You today! This is the day that You made! I rejoice in it!

Thank You for this union, this oneness with, and in You! I soak in Your love today…

Christ in me, yes, it’s Christ in me, every day as I am on my way, it is Christ in me!

In You, I live, move, and have my being!

Today I live from this place of rest, fullness, bounty, wholeness, wellness, affection, and love!

Peace flowing like a River!

The fountain of joy welling up into life!

Thank you, Jesus! For giving life to me!

May everything I do become the thing that pleases You…

Amen.

Love you, Lloyd
Happy New Year!

BRIAN ZAHND / WHEN EVERYTHING’S ON FIRE

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“I felt like the Jesus I knew deserved a better Christianity than the Christianity I knew.” In this podcast, Zahnd shares about the Christian faith in alignment with Jesus and the journey he’s taken in discovering this good news! De- and reconstruction, a non-violent, non-retributive God who is reconciling the world to Himself, hermeneutics, hell, and the wonder of church deep and wide, in this conversation, the guys discuss a much richer, wider faith. The guys dive into Brian’s book, “When Everything’s on Fire,” a conversation that invites us to move beyond the crisis of faith toward the journey of reconstruction.

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“I was having a crisis of faith but not regarding Christ… I felt like the Jesus I knew deserved a better Christianity than the Christianity I knew.”

“Christians should never say that Christianity is the absolute truth, they should say Jesus is the Truth.”

“Jesus is the only perfect theology.”

“The Bible by itself cannot sustain the pressure that is put upon it… Often, in any fundamentalist form of Protestantism, the bible become Christianity… the Bible by itself cannot sustain the pressure that is put upon it…”

“What the Bible does perfectly, and inerrantly, is point us to Jesus.”

“All scripture finds its fulfillment in Christ.”

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