BILL WINN WITH C. BAXTER KRUGER / GOOD DIRT

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In this week’s conversation, long-term friend and host of the Good Dirt, Bill Winn, sits down with Baxter and Jason to explore the sacred-secular divide that has shaped so much of Christian thinking. From hilarious tales of roosters and bees to profound moments about porta potties and car repairs, Baxter, Jason, and Bill unpack how the presence of the Father, Son, and Spirit infuses all of life—not just church services or “religious” activities.

Together they challenge the false split between sacred and secular, showing how every vocation, and every moment in life can all be seen as sacred as we participate in the great life and dance of the Father, Son, and Spirit. Then the conversation turns to explore what union with Jesus truly means. Together, they unpack how union ends religious striving, revealing that we have always belonged to the Father, Son, and Spirit—even before the foundation of the world.

Through personal stories, scripture, and practical insights, they show that union isn’t about trying to get to God but waking up to the truth that Jesus has already united himself with us—even in our darkest places. It is this good news that brings a peace and freedom beyond anything we’ve known before.

For more on Bill Winn:
Website: https://www.billwinnbooks.com/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3_V5DDa9TfuWM4IORLtAwQ

For more on Dr. C. Baxter Kruger:
https://perichoresis.org/

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WM. PAUL YOUNG WITH C. BAXTER KRUGER / THE INCARNATION AND TRUST

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In this conversation, Paul Young, Baxter Kruger and Jason Clark explore the profound themes of trust and the goodness of God. They discuss how trust is foundational to faith, the challenges posed by the problem of evil, and the importance of understanding emotions in the context of trust. The dialogue emphasizes the necessity of community in nurturing trust and the role of the incarnation in revealing God’s goodness. Ultimately, they highlight the journey of living trustfully amidst life’s complexities and the healing that comes from recognizing God’s unwavering goodness.

The guys also explore the complexities of relationships, healing, and the nature of love. They discuss the importance of understanding anger, the role of women in expressing love, and the significance of language in spirituality. The dialogue emphasizes the need for transformation and maturity in one’s spiritual journey, highlighting the dangers of a purpose-driven life and the distinction between covenant and contract in relationships. Ultimately, they advocate for living in the present and recognizing the union of the secular and spiritual as essential to experiencing true love and connection.

For more on Wm. Paul Young:
https://wmpaulyoung.com/

For more on Dr. C. Baxter Kruger:
https://perichoresis.org/

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