CARLOS PADILLA / REDISCOVERING THE FORGOTTEN MAN: THE ELECTION WITHOUT SCAPEGOATS
In this conversation, Carlos and Jason explore the themes of God’s love, human dignity, and the impact of violence on perception. Carlos emphasizes that in the economy of God’s love, everyone is worthy of dignity and life, and that seeing people through a divine lens is crucial to recognizing their humanity. The discussion highlights the dangers of dehumanization and the importance of the gospel in understanding and treating others as fully human.
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http://Carlosmpadilla.com
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CYNTHIA MAGALLANES / YOU ARE BELOVED, YOU ARE ENOUGH
In this heartfelt conversation, Cynthia Magallanes shares her journey of healing from childhood trauma and the impact of her books, which aim to help others navigate their own healing processes. She discusses the importance of identity, community support, and the conflict between understanding God’s goodness amidst personal pain. Cynthia emphasizes the transformative power of love and the role of imagination in healing, as well as the significance of trusting God throughout the journey. The conversation also touches on the writing process and the message of her children’s books, which seek to restore a sense of wonder and belonging.
For more information on Cynthia Magallanes
https://www.cynthiamarisol.com/
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TOM COLE / PURE HEART
In this conversation, Tom Cole and Jason explore the transformative journey of faith, emphasizing the importance of love, community, and vulnerability. Tom shares his personal story of encountering God amidst struggles with addiction and confusion, highlighting the pivotal role of love in understanding God’s nature.
The guys discuss misconceptions about God, the impact of church hurt, and the necessity of authenticity in faith. The dialogue culminates in a powerful affirmation of God’s unconditional love and the healing that comes from embracing vulnerability. Tom and Jason also explore themes of healing, identity, and the transformative power of God’s love. They discuss the importance of understanding God through personal experiences and the Beatitudes as a guide for transformation.
The conversation delves into the significance of breaking shame through confession and the journey to discovering one’s true identity. They also touch on the awakening to innocence and the exploration of new modalities for connecting with God. The discussion concludes with light-hearted taco stories, emphasizing community and connection
For more on Tome Cole
Website: https://www.pureheart.rest/
Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Pure-Heart-Tom-Donna-Cole/dp/1604779934?tag=afamilystory-20
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WAYNE JACOBSEN / HE LOVES ME!
In this conversation, Wayne Jacobsen shares his transformative journey of understanding God’s love, the impact of his book ‘He Loves Me’, and the challenges he faced in his personal life, including health issues. He also shares a deeply personal story about trauma and breakthrough. The discussion also touches on theological shifts regarding atonement and the nature of true peace in the face of adversity.
In this conversation, the guys explore the complexities of reconciliation, trauma, and the nature of justice in relationships. They discuss the importance of navigating personal trauma, recognizing toxic relationships, and the role of good counsel in healing. The dialogue emphasizes the need for trust in God’s justice and the transformative power of living loved, ultimately leading to restorative justice that heals both victims and perpetrators.
For more on Wayne Jacobsen
Website: www.lifestream.org
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THE LONG GAME OF LOVE WITH DUBB ALEXANDER & JASON CLARK
The Kingdom and the Long Game of Love are themes woven throughout this engaging conversation. Dubb and Jason explore the transformative journey of faith, emphasizing the goodness of God and the importance of understanding His nature.
They discuss the shift from desperation to intimacy in their relationship with God, the impact of fatherhood on their theology, and the role of creativity and storytelling in expressing faith.
The conversation also touches on the significance of community support in navigating faith challenges and the long-term vision of love and transformation in culture.
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BOB HAMP / THINK DIFFERENTLY LIVE DIFFERENTLY
This conversation with Bob Hamp and co-host, Brooke Waters, explores the themes of freedom, identity, and transformation, emphasizing the shift from religious performance to relational experience. It delves into the concept of thinking differently, highlighting the process of becoming who we are created to be. The conversation delves into the topics of identity, behavior, freedom, and the nature of God’s love. It explores the idea that behavior follows identity. The concept of the kingdom of God and the discovery of oneness is also discussed, emphasizing the role of consent and freedom in the context of love.
The conversation touches on the restoration of the self and the invitation to return to a place of oneness with God. The conversation delves into the practical application of relational theology, the impact of false narratives, and the role of theology in real-life scenarios. It also explores the nature of God as revealed in Jesus and the misassignment of responsibility in abuse situations within the church.
This episode delves into the impact of family dynamics on personal identity, the absence of responsible parenting, and the cultural shift towards self-focus. It also explores the concept of revival and the future of the church, emphasizing a flatter, more community-oriented structure.
For more information on Bob Hamp
Website: www.tdacad.com
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CALEB CAMPBELL / DISARMING LEVIATHAN
Recognizing our shared humanity, approaching Christian nationalists in love, ethnic erasure, navigating fear, violence and the political and religious divide, personal transformation and hospitality, finding heaven’s solution to the immigration problem, shifting towards unity and compassion, creating language to communicate better alternatives, navigating potentially caustic interactions with leaders in the evangelical world, the influence of money and power in American Christian nationalism, the church growth model of American Christian nationalism, the exhaustion of maintaining a divisive posture, and seeing the manifold wisdom of God in all people, in this conversation Caleb Campbell shares with Dubb Alexander and Jason about his forthcoming book, Disarming Leviathan.
For more on Caleb Campbell
Substack: www.rcnc.substack.com
Disarming Leviathan Book Link: Amazon
Website: www.disarmingleviathan.com
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BISHOP JAMIE ENGLEHART / EPIGNOSIS — A DEEPER, MORE PERSONAL, & EXPERIENTIAL KNOWLEDGE
“It can be true of us but not true to us.” Epignosis- a deeper, more personal, and experiential knowledge, the grace of apostolic ministry, the importance of connection and community, objective and subjective truth, encountering God’s love and affection, the role of works in grace, moving from church mentality to Kingdom thinking, experiencing the truth goodness of God, living in freedom, the invitation to union and clearing the lens, the nature of hell and darkness, the relational dynamic with God, being light and working out salvation, living in the ease of His life, and the partnership between faith and action, in this conversation, Bishop Jamie Englehart and Jason dive into union and the journey experiencing our theology.
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Website: www.connectinternationalministries.com
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BRYANT SPRATLIN / THE THIRD OPTION
In this conversation, Jason and Bryant Spratlin discuss the goodness of God and the journey of rethinking God’s wrath as love, the impact of misinterpretation and bad theology, hearing God’s voice, parenting and apologizing, choosing to love and staying connected, identity, loving the religious, imaginary prayer, the fear of being wrong, rethinking hell, apokatastasis-the restoration of all things, the pleasure of our Father, awakening to the present love reality, and Jesus as the perfect minister. The guys discuss the story of the woman caught in adultery to reveal the paradigm of union as the third option Jesus offers all of us. Overall, this conversation highlights the importance of understanding God’s goodness and the transformative power of grace.
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Behold The Lamb / by Robin Smit
I was honored to write the forward for Robin Smit’s new book, Behold the Lamb which releases today! I can’t recommend it more!
FORWARD
I was raised in, as Robin writes, Western Evangelical Christianity, where “the false doctrines of ‘original sin’ and a punitive atonement narrative groomed (me) to see a harsh, damning, aloof, and distant god, quick to condemn.”
I’ve never actually met that God. Since I can remember, Jesus has been my best friend, and He has been nothing but kind. But for my first 35 years, because of Evangelical teaching on original sin, and that damning lie of separation, I tip-toed around our Father. Then, many years ago, Eva and I drove to, as she called it, “City Town.” She was two.
Eva is my daughter, whom I love. With her, I have always, and will always be, well pleased.
On the drive, I began to sing a song I’d woken up humming—the lyrics both arrested and haunted me.
I love You, Lord, I lift my voice; to worship You, oh my soul, rejoice!
Take joy, my King, in what You hear. Let it be a sweet, sweet sound to Your ear.
That morning, I felt desperate, lonely, and overwhelmed by my family’s significant needs, my failing business, Adam’s finished work, and Jesus’s never-ending unfinished work. I would have never said it that way, but I lived each day as though it were true. As Robin brilliantly explains, I was “striving and doing religious works to find favor with the distorted god of (my) imagination who was nothing like the God who yearned for (me) to know Him as Daddy!”
“Take joy, my King, in what you hear,” I begged in hopes that my perceived distant Father might see me as more than the sum of Adam’s fall.
“No, Daddy,” Eva corrected, and then she started singing, “B. I. N.E O! and Binno was his name-o.” Her innocent correction interrupted my loneliness. I grinned, matching my melody and words with hers, “B. I. N. E. O.” we sang with abandon. I was all right replacing the G. with an E.
As we arrived at “City Town,” Eva pointed out all the “ocitons” — stop signs.
Her older brother had been learning his shapes. Octagons were his favorite.
But I barely heard her ociton ramblings as I wallowed in the lie of separation. It seemed to me there was some measureless distance between God and myself, and no matter what I did, or maybe, thanks to Adam, because of what I did, I couldn’t bridge it.
If Adam had been sitting next to me, I would have punched him in the mouth.
Eva broke in again, saving me with her childlike trust, “Daddy, I aff a secret.” She continued all bright-eyed. “Let’s go a mdonals.”
I mirrored her smile. She was so beautiful; my heart was full to the brim with her goodness. She wanted to go to McDonald’s with her Daddy and have it be our secret. What made it even sweeter— she couldn’t keep a secret.
Our joyful communion confronted, as Robin notes, my “mindset of dualism that made it challenging for (me) to recognize (my) true identity as God’s image-bearer, intended to reflect His nature of Love on earth.”
Ironically, I had no problem recognizing LOVE’S identity reflected in my daughter…
“Take joy, my King, in what you hear,” I sang, desperate. “Let it be a sweet, sweet sound in Your ear… I continued, reveling in every second with my daughter while begging God to come near.
“OK, let’s go eat,” I said to Eva after finishing my errands. We didn’t go to McDonald’s, but we did stop at Phat Burrito, which is one of the best eats in “City Town.” I told Eva the name of the restaurant while we waited in line, again while we got a Coke. We shared a quesadilla and tacos. As we ate, Eva asked, “Daddy, what’s this?” And then, “Fat bummito!”
I smiled. “That’s right, hun, it’s a fat bummito.” I didn’t mind exchanging the “r’s” for some “m’s.”
While we ate, my mind cried out again. Where are you, God? I begged from my insecure faith in the separation of original sin. If Adam had been sitting with us, I’d have spit in his food.
As Eva and I headed home, I prayed out loud: “I am desperate for You!” Then Eva interrupted with the voice of my Father, pointing, “Ociton! Daddy! Ociton!”
Suddenly, I had two thoughts. Both bursting with grace and life!
First, “What if my Father felt about me the way I feel about Eva?”
Then, “When you love someone, you learn to speak their language. I am Eva’s Dad. I know her head-to-toes. I love her fiercely. I am fluent in her language and speak it to her often. But she is also learning a language—mine.
Maybe it’s time to learn my Father’s language?”
Behold The Lamb is a profoundly beautiful invitation to learn our Father’s language. Jesus was the walking revelation of our original design, “the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world,” started with Adam from the foundations of the world. This book invites us to step away from the lie of separation and discover the original Truth of a LOVE that never leaves or forsakes us and restores all things.
Robin Smit is a wonder. Her writing is the perfect blend of arithmetic and poetry, wisdom and grace, knowledge and impartation. Her words are full of the innocent conviction of my two-year-old daughter and the profound understanding of our early church Fathers and Mothers. She breaks down the Church’s “ociton” understandings with a grace that empowers us to know our Father the way Jesus knew Him. And to learn His language.
On every page is an invitation to ask what if?
What if “loss and separation were mere constructs of Adam’s mind” and there has never been “separation between heaven and earth, God and man?”
What if “religion keeps us in bondage to a pagan idea of separation from God?”
What if we could trade “the faulty lens of Adam’s fall for the crystal-clear image of Christ’s restoration?”
What if Jesus “is the Lamb who took away the sin of the world, and that old life no longer exists?”
What if “God sent His Son as Savior because He loves us, because we are His good pleasure!?”
Then maybe we could live each day confidently singing, “Take joy, my King, in what you hear, I am a sweet, sweet sound to Your ear!”
Behold The Lamb is the book you take with you on your journey to “City Town.” In its pages is the incarnational Christ who sings B.I.N.E.O! with abandon— who knows us intimately and is all right replacing the G. with an E. while at the same time introducing us to our native tongue. In its pages is the language of our original design and our restored innocence. In its pages is an opportunity to rethink the restorative nature of Dad’s love and our place in the family. In its pages is the Truth that sets us free.
Behold The Lamb is an invitation to discover we are His children, that He loves, and that He has always and only been well pleased.