CHRIS GORE / HOW GOOD IS THE FATHER, REALLY?
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What if Jesus didn’t come to change the Father’s mind about us—but to change our minds about the Father? Jason sits down with Chris Gore to explore his new book, How Good Is the Father, Really?, and the staggering goodness of God revealed in Jesus. From union and the cross to wrath, punishment, healing, and justice, Chris challenges the punitive God many of us inherited and invites us to discover a Father who is “always only good.” Along the way, they explore why the Father never turned His face from Jesus, how wrath might actually be love confronting everything that destroys the beloved, and why the gospel isn’t about escaping earth but bringing love, healing, hope, and life to the world right now. For more info on Chris: https://www.chrisgore.org/
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What happens when church hurt, stage IV cancer, and deep theological reconstruction collide with an unshakable conviction that God is better than we’ve been told? In this deeply vulnerable conversation, Micole and Bethany Wallace share their remarkable journey—from serving fourteen years as worship pastors, to losing the ministry they thought would be home forever, to discovering Restoration City, walking through reconciliation with former friends, and facing Bethany’s stage IV breast cancer diagnosis.
Together they explore union with Christ, emotional healing, the impact of trauma on the body, the restoration of relationships, and the radical trust that grows when we stop pleading with God and begin to rest in His unwavering goodness. It’s a conversation about worship, healing, forgiveness, hope, and the long game of love that reminds us reconciliation is not just possible—it’s at the very heart of the gospel.
For more info
Restoration City Church – https://www.restorationcity.tv/
Micole and Bethany lead worship for our Rethinking God with Tacos Reunion. Join us this Sept (24-26) in Charlotte.
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/rethinking-god-with-tacos-reunion-2026-tickets-1986548921300?aff=oddtdtcreator
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Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde Assembly
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In this conversation, Jason and his son, Ethan, sit down with Jim Lovejoy for an honest, deeply personal discussion about leaving behind performance-based Christianity and discovering the freedom of beloved identity. Jimmy shares his remarkable journey from Marine, coach, and revival-driven evangelist to a father, mentor, and voice calling people into rest, family, and the love of God. The guys explore the difference between striving and learning, revival and reformation, church as an event versus church as family, and why the future of the Kingdom may look more like fire pits, shared meals, and authentic relationships than polished stages. If you’ve ever wondered whether God’s love is bigger than your performance, this conversation offers hope, healing, and a fresh vision of what it means to follow Jesus.
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JEROMY JOHNSON & DAVID ARTMAN / CHRISTIAN UNIVERSALISM: THE GOSPEL WITHOUT AN EXPIRATION DATE
Jeromy Johnson, from Slutty Grace Podcast, partners with RGWT Podcast to host David Artman and Jason Clark. The fella’s explore Christian universalism not as a fashionable doctrine or theological loophole, but as a coherent, compelling way of seeing God—one that only makes sense if Jesus truly reveals a God whose love is measureless, non-violent, and relentlessly restorative. They push back on dualism, punishment frameworks, and the “ticking clock” gospel (say the prayer before you die or you’re done), and instead explore union, consent, and restoration—a God who doesn’t “look away,” whose justice flows through love, and whose “aeonian” correction is about healing, not revenge. Along the way: early church fathers, time and eternity, “Dr. Evil vs Dr. Frankenstein” theology, parking-lot faith conversations, and a stunning story about meeting God at rock bottom—and wondering if that God is “allowed in church.”
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https://www.davidartman.net/
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BRAD JERSAK / A NON-VIOLENT GOD
In this conversation, Bradley Jersak, Brooke Waters, and Jason Clark explore the profound nature of divine love as revealed through Jesus Christ, particularly focusing on the significance of the cross and the concept of forgiveness in the face of violence.
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DAVID DE VOS / EVERYONE IS A CHILD OF GOD
In this conversation, David de Vos shares his journey of faith, vulnerability, and the transformative power of God’s love. He discusses his healing journey, the impact of his book ‘Raw’, and the importance of inclusion and acceptance in faith. David emphasizes the need to redefine ministry and evangelism, focusing on compassion and connection with others. He introduces his new book ‘Everyone is a Child of God’, exploring the universal love of God and the journey of self-acceptance. The conversation highlights the significance of community and the call to love without borders.
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KEITH GILES / THE QUANTUM SAYINGS OF JESUS
In this engaging conversation, Keith Giles and Jason explore the themes of faith, deconstruction, and the significance of the Gospel of Thomas. They discuss the journey of understanding union with God, and the transformative power of grace. Keith shares insights from his numerous books, including ‘The Quantum Gospel of Mary’, and emphasizes the need to embrace mystery in spirituality. The discussion also touches on the connection between quantum science and spiritual teachings, highlighting the idea of non-duality and the essence of love in understanding God.
The guys delve into themes of faith, dualism, and the nature of God. They explore the implications of union with Christ, the perception of God through our own reflections, and the relational aspects of theology. The discussion also touches on quantum physics and consciousness, suggesting a connection between science and spirituality. They emphasize the importance of awakening to our interconnectedness and practicing awareness and gratefulness in our daily lives. The conversation concludes with reflections on the current great awakening and the need for community in navigating these spiritual journeys.
For more information on Keith Giles:
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/keithgiles/
https://heretichappyhour.com/
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DERRYCK MCLUHAN / FROM CHURCHIANITY TO ABIDING
In this conversation with Dale Howie and Jason Clark, Derryck McLuhan shares his transformative journey from a life steeped in ‘churchianity’ to a personal and dynamic relationship with God. He discusses the challenges of faith, the importance of personal encounters with the divine, and the quest for understanding one’s own beliefs.
The dialogue explores themes of union with the Trinity, the nature of theology, and the significance of personal experiences in shaping faith. Derryck emphasizes the need for authenticity in one’s spiritual journey and the beauty of discovering God beyond traditional constructs.
The guys explore the journey of faith, emphasizing the importance of curiosity, community, and living from a place of grace. They discuss the challenges of navigating spiritual life without rigid routines, the significance of understanding one’s agenda with God, and the transformative power of love and connection.
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In this conversation, Jason and his uncle, Jack Haberer, discuss Jack’s journey in ministry and his new book, Swimming with Sharks: Leading The Full Spectrum Church In A Red And Blue World.
The book addresses the polarization within American Christianity and offers insights on fostering unity across denominations and ideologies. They explore the importance of speaking the truth in love and embracing a full spectrum approach to church, where all voices are heard and valued.
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CATHERINE TOON / LOVEOLOGY
In this conversation, Jason and Catherine Toon discuss the themes of love, identity, and purpose as they revisit Catherine’s revised and expanded edition of her book, Marked By Love.
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